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    Quote Originally Posted by Liale View Post
    They stated quite clearly on the slides that the only unique aspect of each race is the HEAD. It's why they don't have any headgear ready for the races, because it's the only thing that they have to actually change. Furthermore the npc DO use the exact same rigs as the players, they don't have two different animation engines.
    Even if that's true, it still requires work to make sure everything works properly. Do you people really think its that easy to just make every single piece of gear in this game, work perfectly with the two new races? Do you realize how much unique gear is in this game? I don't know why i even bother sometimes. People on this forum are just thick headed and think things are so easy for the devs.
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    bye bye, if you leave because of gender locked races, then your not a real fan of ffxiv anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Windwalker View Post
    bye bye, if you leave because of gender locked races, then your not a real fan of ffxiv anyway.
    What does that even mean?! What does that even mean? Fans can and should view things they consume with a critical mind, and constantly line that up with their own beliefs and world views. Realizing the two no longer align does not make you less of a fan, but it does mean you're not a blind cult member.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyKaplan View Post
    but it does mean you're not a blind cult member.
    I don't think someone being a hardcore fan should be labeled as a blind cult member.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wynn_Storm View Post

    Npc skeletons aren\\'t always the same as player skeletons.
    OK then name one
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    Quote Originally Posted by SunAurel View Post
    OK then name one
    Moogle skeletons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wynn_Storm View Post
    Moogle skeletons.
    haha, and next time you'll tell me that sephirot doesn't use a lalafell skeleton.

    either you can tell me of a Hyur using the Lalafell skeleton or I'm just gna scribe that down as that you don't know of one.

    Fran uses the Elezen skeleton, therefore Viera will also use the Elezen skeleton.

    Races with similar body types WILL share skeletons because it takes less resources. Hrothgar and Roe have a similar body type, therefore they can use the same skeleton,

    Male Miquote and Male Midlander are similar in build, so they share a skeleton
    Lalafells are unique in their physique, therefore they have an individual one
    Male AuRa and Elezen also share one I believe, height and build suggest they do.
    Viera are tall and slim, therefore the Elezen skeleton is already a perfect fit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SunAurel View Post
    haha, and next time you'll tell me that sephirot doesn't use a lalafell skeleton.

    either you can tell me of a Hyur using the Lalafell skeleton or I'm just gna scribe that down as that you don't know of one.

    Fran uses the Elezen skeleton, therefore Viera will also use the Elezen skeleton.

    Races with similar body types WILL share skeletons because it takes less resources. Hrothgar and Roe have a similar body type, therefore they can use the same skeleton,

    Male Miquote and Male Midlander (and Lupin btw) are similar in build, so they share a skeleton
    Lalafells are unique in their physique, therefore they have an individual one
    Male AuRa and Elezen also share one I believe, height and build suggest they do.
    Viera are tall and slim, therefore the Elezen skeleton is already a perfect fit.
    To be fair you said name any npc that doesn't share a skeleton with a player npc. So i said moogles. Maybe be more specific next time? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wynn_Storm View Post
    To be fair you said name any npc that doesn't share a skeleton with a player npc. So i said moogles. Maybe be more specific next time? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
    Context and the previous conversations clearly suggested two characters of the same race, clan, and gender using a different skeleton, one of them being an npc.

    You said just because Fran uses Elezen doesn't mean Viera has to use Elezen, because "Player characters and npc's don't always use the same skeletons"

    so it was pretty clear that it meant two characters of the same race and gender (one of them being a PC) and one NPC not sharing the same skeleton.

    With the exceptions of the Garleans because they have 3 skeletons (Elezen (Nero & Lydia), Zenos (his skeleton is even classified as Monster, so it might actually be unique) , and Hyur) that won't happen.

    Though Garleans are not a playable race.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SunAurel View Post
    Fran uses the Elezen skeleton, therefore Viera will also use the Elezen skeleton.
    She's using a heavily edited version of the Elezen skeleton, so it's no longer just an elezen skeleton, it's now the Veira skeleton since it's been modified to work with her character proportions.
    Larger hands, longer fingers, a slimmer torso and a custom sculpted head, longer legs, completely different feet and leg structure and over all different limb proportions.

    Just because it used an established skeleton as a base doesn't mean it's the exact same skeleton. Otherwise you're saying a male Huyr, Rog, Au Ra and Mi'qote all share the exact same structure, which they don't.
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