Male Viera... Unsubbing for now.

[SunAurel]

Since "they have to redesign EVERY piece of gear for m viera and f Hrothgar" keeps getting brought up:

Male viera use the elezen skeleton, that's it they don't have to work from scratch.
Miqos and female auras use the Hyur skeleton, Hrothgar the Roe skeleton which in itself is also the one used for Highlanders. Female Viera use the Ferm Elezen one.
They don't have to "redesign every piece of gear individually" the pieces are all here and have been used in this way since launch

[Wynn_Storm]

Male viera use the elezen skeleton, that's it they don't have to work from scratch.
Miqos and female auras use the Hyur skeleton, Hrothgar the Roe skeleton which in itself is also the one used for Highlanders. Female Viera use the Ferm Elezen one.
They don't have to "redesign every piece of gear individually" the pieces are all here and have been used in this way since launch

Where are you getting this information? That Viera share a skeleton with Elezen, and Ronso share one with Roe?

Its all speculation. Where you there to see for yourself? Or are you making up bold face accusations?

Just because it may look similar, doesn't necessarily mean they share a skeleton.

Literally all people have seen is like a 1 minute snippet, and suddenly they act like they know all the internal structure that went on for making the races.

[ScarboroughFairy]

Since "they have to redesign EVERY piece of gear for m viera and f Hrothgar" keeps getting brought up:

Male viera use the elezen skeleton, that's it they don't have to work from scratch.
Miqos and female auras use the Hyur skeleton, Hrothgar the Roe skeleton which in itself is also the one used for Highlanders. Female Viera use the Ferm Elezen one.
They don't have to "redesign every piece of gear individually" the pieces are all here and have been used in this way since launch

Source?

Oh, you're making this up. Fooled me.

[Arcari]

I hate when people say this.

Just because you aren't happy with only 1 gender for the race, doesn't mean we should scrap them.

You have no idea what they went through to add this race to the game. And just because you didn't get what you wanted, doesn't mean "let's just get rid of them until they add 2 genders."

Let's not forget that they said Au Ra were the last race, and surprise we got Viera and Ronso. Sure one gender for each race, but TWO new races.

You can whine and mope, but getting two new races is massive.

If you want to unsub because you didn't get what you want, then bye. That's what this thread is about right?

I overall agree with you, but that being said, if I had my way, we wouldn't be getting any new races either. I would much rather focus on upgrading the races we currently have; goodness knows they could use the attention. But then again, my first MMO and the one I grew up with was FFXI, and to this very day they never added a new playable race from its initial launch, and we (mostly) never complained about it there, so this whole thing has been silly to me in the first place. :P

[SunAurel]

Where are you getting this information? That Viera share a skeleton with Elezen, and Ronso share one with Roe?

Its all speculation. Where you there to see for yourself? Or are you making up bold face accusations?

Just because it make look similar, doesn't necessarily mean they share a skeleton.

Literally all people have seen is like a 1 minute snippet, and suddenly they act like they know all the internal structure that went on for making the races.

They have said that existing races do reuse skeletons, you can also see that Fran uses the Elezen skeleton just as omega F and M, also garlear use hyur and Elezen skeletons.
Hrothgar and viera will not get a unique skeleton and the gear is scaled via those skeletons, it's why gear looks (with the exception of the ears) the same on fem Auras and fem miqos for example.
We have Fran cutscenes, her skeleton is Elezen.

[SunAurel]

And for sources: just ask any goddamn xiv modder

[Wynn_Storm]

And for sources: just ask any goddamn xiv modder

That's not an official source.

[SunAurel]

And for sources: just ask any goddamn xiv modder

Somehow I can't edit posts on mobile but WE, there is something called FF explorer which lets you view the ig gear, models, skeletons, etc. and that's how we know fem miquo and fem midlander share the same base skeletons, as do the other races

[Wynn_Storm]

Somehow I can't edit posts on mobile but WE, there is something called FF explorer which lets you view the ig gear, models, skeletons, etc. and that's how we know fem miquo and fem midlander share the same base skeletons, as do the other races

Okay, but viera and Hrothgar aren't out yet. So no one has been able to see their skeletons. Its just assumptions.

You used Fran for example, but who knows if they'll even share the same skeleton as her.

Npc skeletons aren't always the same as player skeletons.

[Liale]

Okay, but viera and Hrothgar aren't out yet. So no one has been able to see their skeletons. Its just assumptions.

You used Fran for example, but who knows if they'll even share the same skeleton as her.

Npc skeletons aren't always the same as player skeletons.

They stated quite clearly on the slides that the only unique aspect of each race is the HEAD. It's why they don't have any headgear ready for the races, because it's the only thing that they have to actually change. Furthermore the npc DO use the exact same rigs as the players, they don't have two different animation engines.