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  1. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by manickitty View Post
    ^This X 10

    The amount of people who don't seem to get this simple fact and instead are hating on people who wish their voice to be heard is mind-boggling. It's simple capitalism. Market forces. You'd think these people would have gone to school.
    I get, that some ppl are sad about some things. But most of the complains are so overtuned and the demands are so unrealistic. You´d think these people would have gone to school.
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    Zeon Darksol
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    Quote Originally Posted by manickitty View Post
    ^This X 10

    The amount of people who don't seem to get this simple fact and instead are hating on people who wish their voice to be heard is mind-boggling. It's simple capitalism. Market forces. You'd think these people would have gone to school.
    Which means nothing, because when 1 is gone another re-subs for the expansion and or pays a hire price for retainers or makes their subscription 15.99 instead of 12.99 to have a alternate character.

    Which un-subbing would do nothing, so the whole school comment got shot down, there is always someone to replace the loss of a subscription.

    Nobody loses anything unless the unsubbed player had owned a house.
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  3. #33
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    I'muka Mahsa
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laphael View Post
    I get, that some ppl are sad about some things. But most of the complains are so overtuned and the demands are so unrealistic. You´d think these people would have gone to school.
    Mostly because Square Enix showed over the Years, that the only way to make them hear their Audience is a Shitstorm big enough to be in the News of Sites like Kotaku, Polygon, and several more.
    And if something like this was needed several time, the people will straight jump for this was.
    If the only way to make you open your door it to bang at it with force very loud, your friends will not ring the bell anymore and instead bang your door with force every time.
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  4. #34
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    Sophia Miyuki
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    Quote Originally Posted by Imuka View Post
    Mostly because Square Enix showed over the Years, that the only way to make them hear their Audience is a Shitstorm big enough to be in the News of Sites like Kotaku, Polygon, and several more.
    Those are not news sites, they haven't been for years and gamers don't really read those "news sites" .
    Instead of providing actual news and good game reviews, they have something else on they plate to push.


    But not to derail from the thread, everyone can and should voice their voice to certain limits even with unsubbing which is feedback with the wallet in the end.
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    Last edited by cougarel; 03-28-2019 at 11:54 PM.
    There is no limit that can not be passed

  5. #35
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    Nobody is really quitting for genderlock

    Nobody is really quitting for genderlock. No money for you, sorry.

    Only those that would quit anyway or those for whom this was the final straw. Most of the others are just temporary unsubbing, delaying the preorder or not preordering. It's more like a strike, workers take an action that is supposed to be noticed but they don't drop the job.

    For those saying that unsubbing people would be replaced: Nope. Let's make a very simplified example, let's take the natural cycle of FFXIV is very month 10 people leave and 10 join. This month 50 people leave, 10 join. On big number those those 40 will be felt.
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    Last edited by Greven; 03-29-2019 at 12:02 AM. Reason: a few nuances

  6. #36
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    Valdegarde's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greven View Post
    Only those that would quit anyway or those for whom this was the final straw.
    Yep, you nailed it. It's alarming how many "final straws" are popping up and it's just tiring to me, I don't have a desire to play or look forward to anything right now. For me the final straw was most definitely Blue Mage, but nothing after has really helped.
    For others, the final straw will be those that wanted to experience the expansion as a new race, that didn't want to see the relic weapons in Eureka again, the story being underwhelming leading into Shadowbringers, the lack of a 4th healer to use...you name it, and there's probably more to come.
    People who are protesting still care and want to see change, the ones you have to worry about are those who have had their interest completely killed.
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  7. #37
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greven View Post
    Only those that would quit anyway or those for whom this was the final straw. Most of the others are just temporary unsubbing, delaying the preorder or not preordering. It's more like a strike, workers take an action that is supposed to be noticed but they don't drop the job.

    For those saying that unsubbing people would be replaced: Nope. Let's make a very simplified example, let's take the natural cycle of FFXIV is very month 10 people leave and 10 join. This month 50 people leave, 10 join. On big number those those 40 will be felt.
    Pretty much this. I'm unsubbing till May pretty much because I don't really want to play at the moment, so why pay for something I'm not using? That's just wasting money. But to be fair, when you do unsub you're asked to give a reason for your unsub... and then given a choice of radial button options to press and none of them really give any actual feedback on why you're really leaving. Thus, if you really want to provide feedback as to why you are unsubbing, this is pretty much the best place for it.

    I'll re-evaluate my decision in May if I like what I hear from the live letter and decide I feel like playing the expansion. Or perhaps taking a break is what I need to do to feel up to getting and playing the expansion again. I won't lie, I am pretty disappointed with the news I've heard so far. But I'm keeping tabs in case SE can show that my fears and pessimism are wrong or does something that will allow me to overlook them a bit. SE has let me down quite a few times over the past few years, I've learned to keep my expectations fairly low, but am always willing to be happily surprised.
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    Last edited by Reiryuu; 03-29-2019 at 12:38 AM.
    "Then what is magic for?" Prince Lir demanded wildly. "What use is wizardry if it cannot save a unicorn?"
    Schmendrick did not turn his head. With a touch of sad mockery in his voice, he said, "That's what heroes are for."
    -- Peter S. Beagle, The Last Unicorn

  8. #38
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    Crimson Law
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    People are free to come to or go from the game as they please. That said, if anyone is feeling generous... I'm just a poor Midlander, from a poor family...
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  9. #39
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    I'muka Mahsa
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    Quote Originally Posted by cougarel View Post
    Those are not news sites, they haven't been for years and gamers don't really read those "news sites" .
    Instead of providing actual news and good game reviews, they have something else on they plate to push.


    But not to derail from the thread, everyone can and should voice their voice to certain limits even with unsubbing which is feedback with the wallet in the end.
    It is not important if the sites are good or bad, but SE showed over the Years, that the only way to make them not ignore everything is to make the outrage spread around the Internet all over the Place.

    Otherwise you will see only one reaction from this Company: Ignore and hope the people will forget it.

    This became mostly the norm how to make AAA Publishers not stick their Heads into the Sand, as soon as something bad happens.
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    Last edited by Imuka; 03-29-2019 at 04:19 AM.

  10. #40
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    Mirabelle Weaver
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fredco191 View Post
    They should also delete their character(s). Other and/or New players might want their character’s(s’) name(s).
    Yeah I might need to look for a new name in the future so free up those names!
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