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  1. #1371
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    Quote Originally Posted by UnlistedOdin View Post
    Just kind of funny how much attention this is producing even though when Viera was first released in FF tactics advanced. It was literally introduced as a female only race. This whole argument about gender race locking in a mmo or any game with back lore estabilished then changed to appease the few is so silly. Can't people just enjoy a game anymore just for the entertainment value? Times like this make me miss the 90's when games were all about gameplay, and not reliant on appeasing the few on graphics, and such.
    Why do people always like to claim the “few” or the “vocal minority”? Is it because they have no actual points and rely on lies to try to prove their point?
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  2. #1372
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alleo View Post
    Of course we will probably have more expansions and with this feedback there is a much higher chance to get the two missing genders in the next one. But at least for me, the one expansion after shadowbringers is over two years away. Thats two years where I (who wants to play a female beast race) will see the male version running around while knowing that I cant play the female version of it. And it really dampers my motivation to keep up the sub. And its not helping that we now know that the Viera was the afterthought and not the Ronsos. Thus the dream of a female beast character could have finally become true, only to be destroyed by a sexy bunny girl. (Not that I blame the players that wanted those)
    Honestly, its quite strange to find that viera had only come in so recently. Considering how much i have seen Viera talked about, Even over a beast race specifically.
    Loving beast races quite a lot, i am a bit disappointed with the Hrothgar So i think that may push me away. But i think Viera would have made a better beast race if they had chosen to go down that path. They are well suited for it.
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  3. #1373
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    Quote Originally Posted by manickitty View Post
    Why do people always like to claim the “few” or the “vocal minority”? Is it because they have no actual points and rely on lies to try to prove their point?
    I think some people like to use it to shut down an argument if its not to their liking. I do remember some posters that had no problem bringing up something they dont like but as soon as they liked something and the forum raised a lot of negative voices against it, they went into the topic and said that its just a vocal minority. I dont take that seriously anymore. First we cant know who the majority truly is because the forum is a minority in itself. But the forum also often showed that topics that created huge negative impact on the forum was often something that reflected in the game too. Be it housing or Diadem and even recent ones like Eureka or Blue. There some loved to point out how only the forum disliked it yet the lucky bancho numbers painted quite the good picture on this. (Low participation numbers) Heck the recent Mr Happy interview has Yoshida saying that he was surprised how many people wanted the old relic quest back.

    And now after some told us that again we are just the minority that cares for genderlocks we see threads like the male viera one with over 1.3k likes, which is probably the most liked post ever made, and even the one for female ronso is near the 1k.

    Quote Originally Posted by AcornFox View Post
    Honestly, its quite strange to find that viera had only come in so recently. Considering how much i have seen Viera talked about, Even over a beast race specifically.
    Loving beast races quite a lot, i am a bit disappointed with the Hrothgar So i think that may push me away. But i think Viera would have made a better beast race if they had chosen to go down that path. They are well suited for it.
    I also thought that the Viera would be the one that comes first and that we might never get a beastly race. So I truly was surprised that we would have gotten the beastly race before the Viera and now I am even more sad that this is now just half the race too..
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  4. #1374
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    micropanther7's Avatar
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    Showing my support for this too, I'm really hoping that both male Viera and female Hrothgar will become available as playable races at some point
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  5. #1375
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    Quote Originally Posted by niteypants View Post
    Remember, there will be many more expansions to come. The idea that removing the gender lock is unfeasible due to limited development resources is therefore not true. Money can be moved around, projects changed, and timelines shifted.

    It's a question of priorities and not resources. We need to keep the demand tempo for both genders high enough so that Square realizes this is a top priority and not an afterthought or a flex goal.
    Aesthetics over gameplay, I see.
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  6. #1376
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    Quote Originally Posted by manickitty View Post
    Why do people always like to claim the “few” or the “vocal minority”? Is it because they have no actual points and rely on lies to try to prove their point?
    Because there's hundreds of thousands of people who play the game and nowhere near all of them are on the forums.

    1300 compared to say 100000 is indeed a few.
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  7. #1377
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaiyoShikasu View Post
    Aesthetics over gameplay, I see.
    I mean yeah, it's kind of the first thing you encounter in the game, and is what the final fantasy series prides itself on. Good first impressions are really important. ie: me and a bunch of my friends passed over 1.0 because of the genderlocks, and played ARR because they removed them.

    Quote Originally Posted by TaiyoShikasu View Post
    Because there's hundreds of thousands of people who play the game and nowhere near all of them are on the forums.

    1300 compared to say 100000 is indeed a few.
    Implying that every unseen, unaccounted for person is all in favor of the current thing.


    Quote Originally Posted by Kellam View Post
    Support for Male Viera. I want to flaunt my flamboyance as a bunny boy samura with the Usagi Kabuto :3
    Here's hoping they figure out hats...
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    Last edited by Roda; 03-27-2019 at 05:27 AM.

  8. #1378
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    Chris Raith
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    Support for Male Viera. I want to flaunt my flamboyance as a bunny boy samura with the Usagi Kabuto :3
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  9. #1379
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaiyoShikasu View Post
    Because there's hundreds of thousands of people who play the game and nowhere near all of them are on the forums.

    1300 compared to say 100000 is indeed a few.
    The forums are a microcosm of the community. For every vocal player on the forums there are likely hundreds or thousands with similar opinions but without the need to vocalize themselves.

    We have no way of knowing if the majority of the playerbase wants or doesn't want female Hrothgar/male Viera; but one could assume since the majority of vocal players on the forums do seem to want them, you can reasonably extrapolate that feeling being true of the majority of the non-vocal part of the community. "Vocal minority"assumes that only those who are vocal hold the stated opinion, which isn't true.
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  10. #1380
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    I will use the bunny crown (gold saucer) in my male character, as a form of protest
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