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  1. #1391
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    xbahax92's Avatar
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    Flan Vongola
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    Raiden
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaiyoShikasu View Post
    Because there's hundreds of thousands of people who play the game and nowhere near all of them are on the forums.

    1300 compared to say 100000 is indeed a few.

    It would be rather absurd to see 10000+ likes on the OP, as forums and even reddit were never that active. Ofcourse we do not resemble the whole community, but we still do complete every faction by a bit. People that support, are neutral but also people that defend genderlock.
    You can take your own guess how many of which faction are represented. And I do think its quiet clear that the supporters (with a mix of neutral people) do not like genderlocks.
    The forums is indeed a sample of the whole community, thus feedback is (imo) valid.
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    Last edited by xbahax92; 03-27-2019 at 06:46 AM.

  2. #1392
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    Oce's Avatar
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    Doki Kodoki
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    What people don't seem to realize is the forums act as a "sample size". Yes, this thread is upvoted 1300 times or so and when you compare that to active users it may seem small, but what you should instead be comparing it to is active forum users. Unfortunately, I have no idea how to find that data, but the forums work as a good "sample size". You can assume that, say, if there were 10,000 active forum users then we have 13% of our sample size supporting this idea. We can extend that to the actual playerbase of 237,561 (NA active player census) and say that there's approximately 30,882 unhappy players by the decision in north america alone. That's a healthy number.

    But, I don't know numbers for the active users of this forum so I can't actually say.
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  3. #1393
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    Jack Heals
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    I support male Viera!!! Jacked cat-men are cool and all but it's hard to support the whole gender-locking thing as I personally find it exclusive and a bad business practice, especially in 2019.
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  4. #1394
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    Cyric Eladriel
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    Quote Originally Posted by ashcrill View Post
    I support this thread! And I signed this too!
    [End Gender-locking in FFXIV] http://chng.it/nxnBfmj2pc
    Signed

    for an Eorzea with male Viera and female Hrothgar!
    (15)

  5. #1395
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    I'm so ready for Male Viera and Female Hrothgar! Here's to showing support.
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  6. #1396
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    Jun Kawaguchi
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Hi hi, I joined the forums today just so I could post my support for male Viera. Please let them be accessible, I would love to make a whole new character as a male bunny boy. There's so many opportunities here, I hope the staff hears us out :> Thank you.
    (15)

  7. #1397
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    Chris Von'greven
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    Reading about players that joined for showing their support makes me happy ahah :3
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  8. #1398
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    Hinata Shouyou
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    SUPPORT SHOWN. I was so excited for Shadowbringers until they did this. I want male Viera and female Ronso!!!!!
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  9. #1399
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    Bard Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by TaiyoShikasu View Post
    Aesthetics over gameplay, I see.
    Characterization is gameplay.

    One thing for supporters of gender choice to keep in mind is that time is of the essence. The longer FFXIV continues to develop without introducing Male Viera (and Female Hrothgar), the less likely it becomes that they will ever be released, because Square's primary excuse for not introducing them becomes a larger problem as more and more wearables are created.

    If Square at all, ever, plans to introduce Male Viera and Female Hrothgar, the sooner the better. I think that they of course understand this, and have decided to never release Male Viera and Female Hrothgar. This is a big problem for many different reasons, including Square not understanding harmful gender constructs. In creating a female-locked Viera whose reveal was highly sexualized and a male-locked Hrothgar that has a He-Man physique, they have broadcasted that women should be like x and men should be like y. They haven't so much created new races as they have created roles, where players are expected to conform to a patriarchal and dated understanding of gender roles.

    Given that developmental complexity will only increase, Square has likely made the decision to never introduce Male Viera and Female Hrothgar. But that doesn't mean they can't be persuaded to change their decision. Square is a business, and if they see that their business is not meeting customer expectations to the point it's hurting potential profits, then they will change. Keeping the noise high and frequent will go a long way to helping them understand, and the game will be better for it.
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  10. #1400
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    Kika Snowheart
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    Lamia
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    Archer Lv 70
    Final Fantasy XIV gives exposition to the elusive male viera, who are virtually identical at birth to females; only upon maturing they are able to be identified gender wise. Male viera return to the village to collect the male children who reach puberty to teach them the ways of the hunt. They live in separate settlements and only communicate with the females when needing to mate, trade or collect the male adolescences. The male viera are secretive, vicious, skilled hunters and are so well adapted to living in viera forests no one aside from female viera has ever seen one.
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