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    Quote Originally Posted by manickitty View Post
    Why do people always like to claim the “few” or the “vocal minority”? Is it because they have no actual points and rely on lies to try to prove their point?
    Because there's hundreds of thousands of people who play the game and nowhere near all of them are on the forums.

    1300 compared to say 100000 is indeed a few.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaiyoShikasu View Post
    Because there's hundreds of thousands of people who play the game and nowhere near all of them are on the forums.

    1300 compared to say 100000 is indeed a few.
    The forums are a microcosm of the community. For every vocal player on the forums there are likely hundreds or thousands with similar opinions but without the need to vocalize themselves.

    We have no way of knowing if the majority of the playerbase wants or doesn't want female Hrothgar/male Viera; but one could assume since the majority of vocal players on the forums do seem to want them, you can reasonably extrapolate that feeling being true of the majority of the non-vocal part of the community. "Vocal minority"assumes that only those who are vocal hold the stated opinion, which isn't true.
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    What people don't seem to realize is the forums act as a "sample size". Yes, this thread is upvoted 1300 times or so and when you compare that to active users it may seem small, but what you should instead be comparing it to is active forum users. Unfortunately, I have no idea how to find that data, but the forums work as a good "sample size". You can assume that, say, if there were 10,000 active forum users then we have 13% of our sample size supporting this idea. We can extend that to the actual playerbase of 237,561 (NA active player census) and say that there's approximately 30,882 unhappy players by the decision in north america alone. That's a healthy number.

    But, I don't know numbers for the active users of this forum so I can't actually say.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaiyoShikasu View Post
    Because there's hundreds of thousands of people who play the game and nowhere near all of them are on the forums.

    1300 compared to say 100000 is indeed a few.
    This is the most voted thread in the forum ever made, not even the bow mage issue were this sought after.

    If you took even a bit of your time to went through some of the posts, even just a little bit, not only you'd find all the answers you need but you would've noticed how many are making an account to join to fray.

    So, the official forums behaving as rappresentative slice shows well that it's not a vocal minority at all. The people against this requests made a thread and a poll, they even reached 100. Here we are at 1300+, 2500+ in the poll and there's even a Japanese thread dedicated to this. I let you make the calculation of what this % means.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaiyoShikasu View Post
    Because there's hundreds of thousands of people who play the game and nowhere near all of them are on the forums.

    1300 compared to say 100000 is indeed a few.
    squeaky wheel gets the grease
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