Revelations from Patch 4.56

[Lauront]

Since 10 words are law
MSQ:

This felt the weakest story going into another expansion, the Zenos instance was fun but the whole drag us out and get saved by Estinien off screen irked me i feel that should've been shown or had the player control Estinien to force Zenos away.

Elidibus the emissary of Zodiark has no idea what Solus is planning so either he blindly trusts Solus with the 1st shard problem or he is acting more foolish now than he has ever been must be the body. Also if that truly is the extent of Elidibus's power then we are indeed getting quite powerful, Zenos you probably do not want to fight us as you might be a fly when we get back

Varis has gone loco for his ambition creepy face says all us going to the 1st is going to mess with the source's political state horribly, unfortunately this is also where all tension and suspense for the expansion is for me atm what is going to happen while we are away not for where we are going.


The very build up for ShB is near non existent i think we should've had a try at going to the 1st get a glimpse of Thancred/Y'shtola/Urianger fighting a sin eater and failed to actually travel there, thereby requesting Cid and the students to try to find a way to add more power so we can travel they needed time so we give it. It would give us as a character more drive to find our friends than currently and make us think about us not continuing the war.

Right now i feel as a character we should stay on the Source and finish the war the Enigmatic voice said win or lose lies a calamity, well buckaroo i don't see how the Alliance winning the war brings a calamity but i sure see how Garlemald might cough Black Rose cough. So i think i should stay and stop them since calamity means a shard is rejoined and it's inhabitants die feels more important since while my friends are coma tose they don't appear to be in any danger to my knowledge.

In accord with the law...

Just bear in mind that the fact that this is a duty finder sole fight does somewhat limit how much they can do with it. That is always the issue with inferring too much from combat mechanics. The fact that Elidibus just pulled himself back up, whilst having severely weakened the WoL, isn't hinting to me that he's shown the full extent of his power, although he concedes that you are a powerful WoL and that Hydaelyn chose well. He used a small subset of the abilities the Overlords typically possess, and some of Zenos's, which I found interesting. He then just left when you were whisked away. It does seem like original Zenos is setting himself up for a rather wild ride, though. The bigger issue I had with Elidibus's portrayal is that Solus is just playing him for a fool, especially if the Emperor in that scene was Solus. Elidibus is no idiot. He's also not lost his composure or level headedness, and yet Solus does appear to be working some manner of deceit upon him.

Regarding Solus, there were prior cutscenes in 4.5 implying that he may be headed to the Source to wreak some havoc with the Black Rose, the production of which has only now begun. To me it looks like Solus has taken hold of Varis and is intent on causing as much chaos as he can on both worlds. I am also anticipating that he will betray Elidibus

[Crushnight]

In accord with the law...

Just bear in mind that the fact that this is a duty finder sole fight does somewhat limit how much they can do with it. That is always the issue with inferring too much from combat mechanics. The fact that Elidibus just pulled himself back up, whilst having severely weakened the WoL, isn't hinting to me that he's shown the full extent of his power, although he concedes that you are a powerful WoL and that Hydaelyn chose well. He used a small subset of the abilities the Overlords typically possess, and some of Zenos's, which I found interesting. It does seem like original Zenos is setting himself up for a rather wild ride, though. The bigger issue I had with Elidibus's portrayal is that Solus is just playing him for a fool, especially if the Emperor in that scene was Solus. Elidibus is no idiot. He's also not lost his composure or level headedness, and yet Solus does appear to be working some manner of deceit upon him.

Regarding Solus, there were prior cutscenes in 4.5 implying that he may be headed to the Source to wreak some havoc with the Black Rose, the production of which has only now begun. To me it looks like Solus has taken hold of Varis and is intent on causing as much chaos as he can on both worlds. I am also anticipating that he will betray Elidibus

In accordance with the law:

Elidibus's objective was to kill us it seems off if he weren't putting everything behind the attempt he had he only got an opening thanks to us being called so either he was holding back being counter productive to his objective of killing us or he is indeed that weak while possessing Zenos's body both are not favorable to him.

If the Emperor Varis is possessed by Solus that just adds to Elidibus's downgrade as an very calculating individual but we do know Varis will do whatever is needed to lessen garlean casualties even deploying black rose so it could be either way if he is possessed or not i'm inclined to say yes due to that face

[Lauront]

In accordance with the law:

Elidibus's objective was to kill us it seems off if he weren't putting everything behind the attempt he had he only got an opening thanks to us being called so either he was holding back being counter productive to his objective of killing us or he is indeed that weak while possessing Zenos's body both are not favorable to him.

On that point...

Eh, I don't quite read it that way. He was ready to go for round 2, having already weakened you considerably. Yes, the calling presented an opportunity but also a big risk in that it could be Hydaelyn, so he had to be swift but alas, you were whisked away before he could do much else. It's also pretty clear he was experimenting with the body's potential at that stage. So I'm not inclined to agree.

As for Solus, I think it all just lines up nicely with setting the stage for a betrayal, perhaps to satisfy his own megalomaniacal ambitions and unseat Elidibus from his role, or something even "better". Pretending to be Varis and using his own lines through his mouth makes for a nice bit of theatre.

[Crushnight]

On that point...

Eh, I don't quite read it that way. He was ready to go for round 2, having already weakened you considerably. Yes, the calling presented an opportunity but also a big risk in that it could be Hydaelyn, so he had to be swift but alas, you were whisked away before he could do much else. It's also pretty clear he was experimenting with the body's potential at that stage. So I'm not inclined to agree.

As for Solus, I think it all just lines up nicely with setting the stage for a betrayal, perhaps to satisfy his own megalomaniacal ambitions and unseat Elidibus from his role, or something even "better". Pretending to be Varis and using his own lines through his mouth makes for a nice bit of theatre.

For you see ...

Then that makes Elidibus dumb he knows we have permanently destroyed 2 ascians, he had to know we would figure out an ascian(not necessarily him) was possessing Zenos's body due to it having been buried so there was a chance(at least to his knowledge) that we could have the means to destroy him too, holding back even if you are overconfident in your abilities against someone who has been known to destroy your seemingly immortal kin is incredibly dumb and for a character like Elidibus that seems out of character especially when the objective is to kill.

[Dualgunner]

In accord with the law...

Just bear in mind that the fact that this is a duty finder sole fight does somewhat limit how much they can do with it. That is always the issue with inferring too much from combat mechanics. The fact that Elidibus just pulled himself back up, whilst having severely weakened the WoL, isn't hinting to me that he's shown the full extent of his power, although he concedes that you are a powerful WoL and that Hydaelyn chose well. He used a small subset of the abilities the Overlords typically possess, and some of Zenos's, which I found interesting. He then just left when you were whisked away. It does seem like original Zenos is setting himself up for a rather wild ride, though. The bigger issue I had with Elidibus's portrayal is that Solus is just playing him for a fool, especially if the Emperor in that scene was Solus. Elidibus is no idiot. He's also not lost his composure or level headedness, and yet Solus does appear to be working some manner of deceit upon him.

Regarding Solus, there were prior cutscenes in 4.5 implying that he may be headed to the Source to wreak some havoc with the Black Rose, the production of which has only now begun. To me it looks like Solus has taken hold of Varis and is intent on causing as much chaos as he can on both worlds. I am also anticipating that he will betray Elidibus

10 letters be speaketh...

I didn't really get the impression we were weakened by our fight with Elidizenos, more that G'raha wouldn't stop trying to call us in the middle of the fight. It's hard enough to have a conversation with Raubahn with him kicking the door to our soul down, let alone sustain combat with a foe like Elidibus using Zenos' body.