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  1. #831
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    Hikelos's Avatar
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    H' Ikelos
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    Odin
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by deadman1204 View Post
    It sounds like you are saying discrimination is perfectly fine if:
    1. its in a game
    2. its in another culture
    3. (im adding this) its not you

    There are lots of things in the world that are horrible. Like you say, this is a fantasy. The devs have the option to leave ALL the horrible things out. Why are you ok with adding in discrimination?
    Would you feel different if they forced you play a cutsie helpless little female character? I bet you would.
    This game literally starts with a calamity that kills hundreds of thousands of people, in the middle of a bloody war for conquest, and you draw the line at sexism? If this wasn't Current Year™ I would assume this is concern trolling.
    There's plenty of examples of sexism already in the game, Miqo'te society for one, which have been mentioned several times.
    You're also not being forced to do anything, you can keep playing as you have, nothing has been taken from you.

    Stop trying to make this about politics.
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  2. #832
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    Caliban Abyra
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    Jenova
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    Astrologian Lv 67
    Quote Originally Posted by Gyrowins View Post
    Might as well do this with male miqo'te too if you go down that route
    Or classes like White Mage if you're want that much lore purity.

    Edit: man this thread goes fast.
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  3. #833
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    Adam Antium
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    Odin
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    Warrior Lv 70
    and yet I don't see people kicking up nearly as much fuss over not having female Hrothgar. Seems like people are just upset they aren't getting their bunnybois and forgetting there are other people with different opinions out there. Then you have professional victims coming in and claiming this is all dog-whistling on SE's part.

    edit: I'm not saying you can't voice your opinion either, just don't forget you're not the only one out there.
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  4. #834
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    IrisSmooches's Avatar
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    Iris Smooches
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    Gilgamesh
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    Bard Lv 60
    Strongly agree! I would love to see both male Viera and female Hrothgar in the game and really hope the devs can make it happen.
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  5. #835
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    Sakamae Amaryllis
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    Gilgamesh
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    Thank you Yoshi P and the team for giving two races along with new classes, I hope in the future you will give us male Viera. I think big enough fanbase of the players would make it a good idea, and im also not fond of gender locking and I was very proud of ffxiv for not doing so. I am for male Viera, for 'lore friendly' i mean we have crossovers with monster hunter and now going to have a flying and swimming car. Au Ra aren't supposed to be seen a ton but they are everywhere, we have soft cat boys and even a very soft face for Elezen. Its possible to make them a very cool 'cold' look on the hardened male viera as well, whichever everyone decides up, but I hope it's to progress forward with keeping not gender locked even if it takes awhile
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  6. #836
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    Caliban Abyra
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    Jenova
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    Astrologian Lv 67
    Quote Originally Posted by Yurneno View Post
    and yet I don't see people kicking up nearly as much fuss over not having female Hrothgar. Seems like people are just upset they aren't getting their bunnybois and forgetting there are other people with different opinions out there. Then you have professional victims coming in and claiming this is all dog-whistling on SE's part.
    I wont speak to your later complaint, since it's generally not worth it as much but I personally am MUCH angrier about the Ronso/Hrothgar then the Veira. On their own they would be bad enough, but genderlocking the Ronso is a slap in the face to everyone who loved them from FFX. Some of the first Ronso you meet are blitzball players with plenty of women among their number for pete's sake.
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  7. #837
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    Drunken Bee
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    Exodus
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    Paladin Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by itwasmedio View Post
    We are a regrettable species. This "controversy" is proof.
    So do you have an argument or are you just coming in here to feel better about yourself? You've gotta live a sad, lonely life if this smugness is what gets you to wake up in the morning.
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  8. #838
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    Liz Ard
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Yurneno View Post
    and yet I don't see people kicking up nearly as much fuss over not having female Hrothgar. Seems like people are just upset they aren't getting their bunnybois and forgetting there are other people with different opinions out there.
    The reason for the fuss over male Viera and not as much for Hrothgar is because
    1- Vieras are more popular;
    2- People would rather have a complete male and female race than 2 genderlocked races, and Viera was announced first;
    3- Most complaints are about genderlock, and that already includes Hrothgar.
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  9. #839
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    Lil Stabby
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    Behemoth
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Gyrowins View Post
    So do you have an argument or are you just coming in here to feel better about yourself? You've gotta live a sad, lonely life if this smugness is what gets you to wake up in the morning.
    I'm just here to provide an outsider's view on how insane and inane this whole thing appears to those of us who deal with real issues in the real world as part of our personal or work lives.
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  10. #840
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    Gaspard Richelieu
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    Leviathan
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    Summoner Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by zombunnies View Post
    How does anyone feel about just making a mass "post writing" day. The fact is, we won't be able to keep up this energy consistently. However, if organize we pick one day of the month for about a year or so, to really pour our hearts out here. Then we can stick around as a relevant topic
    This is a great idea! I’m new to the forums but I’m definitely down to keep at it.

    I’m also thinking of starting up a social media campaign to help drum up support and keep the momentum going on this. I know the OF is our best bet to voice our opinions directly, but if we can get the message to go viral it might attract wider attention. If not only the players but games media start asking about it, it might give the message more weight!
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