Why FFXIV is The Best

[Anzaman]

Or in the same timeframe, they could have released one complete race instead of two incomplete ones, which arguably would be easier, since you don't have to create lore for two races.

What's done is done, it's useless to complain about it at this point.

Or would you pref. them to scrap races completely now, hm?

Was it useless to complain about no Male Miqo and Femroe, hm?

Eh, not really, people got what they wanted.

But in current situation some people are even demanding for whole expansion to be delayed, when in above case they had Miqo/Roe prepared for planned 2.0 release date to begin with.

So, I mean - yeah, currently complaining about male Viera/female Ronso might lead to somewhere, but at the same time, they might have already plans to get those for 6.0 as new races aren't planned for it, thus it'd free development time to get proper models for them instead of rushed attempts mid-expansion.

[manickitty]

What's done is done, it's useless to complain about it at this point.

Or would you pref. them to scrap races completely now, hm?

Was it useless to complain about no Male Miqo and Femroe, hm?

[Poisonous]

Stop complaining, stop whining, stop throwing a fit, etc. etc. Be happy with what you get!

You can and should complain. I have.

What's annoying is when you throw yourselves on the ground kicking and screaming and start throwing around baseless accusations of homophobia and sexism over a cosmetic option, especially when you already have those cosmetic options.

Please take a deep breath, go play something else for a while, and get some fresh air outside with the sun.

[Canadane]

Was it useless to complain about no Male Miqo and Femroe, hm?

There was not a huge outcry for that though. Not anything like right now.
They did this to show people that 2.0 was not just XI-II.

I'm personally fine with solo gendered races. It's a high fantasy setting, a place where these things can exist and it's (normally) acceptably okay.

[Kyuuen]

What's done is done, it's useless to complain about it at this point.

Or would you pref. them to scrap races completely now, hm?

As manickitty said, was there any point to the complaints of Male Miqo'te and Female Roes wasted back during 1.0? What about bow mage, which from my understanding has seen considerable change from. Was all the complaints about having a Male bunny suit also pointless?

Answer to all of those, no it was not pointless. As those are all things in which we now have.

Even if that were true, they still wouldn't be the WoL/WoD or adventurers at all, since your character would still have to get to that point in the story anyway. The is a great chance that is not true anyway, since you just made it up. We might not even see one. If you allow them as WoL/WoD, you also allow them as widespread adventurers at the same time.

Au'ra would like to have word with this discussion point.

[Zsolen]

Au'ra would like to have word with this discussion point.

Au Ra can travel, particularly since they have various tribes with different standards and customs. Also Yugiri.

[Kyuuen]

Au Ra can travel, particularly since they have various tribes with different standards and customs. Also Yugiri.

Even if that were true, they still wouldn't be the WoL/WoD or adventurers at all, since your character would still have to get to that point in the story anyway.

Au'ra were introduced in the end of the 2.0 series as an introduction to 3.0. Which means Au'ra would effective have to time travel to become the WoL. Using this as a defense against Male viera is pointless as it's already happened before.

The is a great chance that is not true anyway, since you just made it up. We might not even see one. If you allow them as WoL/WoD, you also allow them as widespread adventurers at the same time.

No, no such assertion is required as the WoL (player character) is a singular existence, every other player from the WoL perspective are pretty much NPC's/adventurer's with the power of the echo.

As to maintaining an experience of rarity then all they have to do is not utilize male viera as NPC's to keep them "rare". And if the next argument is gonna be, but the players themselves would make them not rare then why did they make Duskwights playable considering they're rare to cities, and Miqo'te are supposed to be uncommon to Eorzea.. yet us players seem to defy those facts.

And yet no one complains about any of that, but Viera is where the line is drawn?

[Zsolen]

Au'ra were introduced in the end of the 2.0 series as an introduction to 3.0. Which means Au'ra would effective have to time travel to become the WoL. Using this as a defense against Male viera is pointless as it's already happened before.

No, no such assertion is required as the WoL (player character) is a singular existence, every other player from the WoL perspective are pretty much NPC's/adventurer's with the power of the echo.

As to maintaining an experience of rarity then all they have to do is not utilize male viera as NPC's to keep them "rare". And if the next argument is gonna be, but the players themselves would make them not rare then why did they make Duskwights playable considering they're rare to cities, and Miqo'te are supposed to be uncommon to Eorzea.. yet us players seem to defy those facts.

And yet no one complains about any of that, but Viera is where the line is drawn?

Au Ra had adventurers before that. They just were not a common sight in Eorzea.

Yes, the other characters are not WoL, which was my point. They are adventurers. So those other adventurers being male viera would make no sense.

The other races have some rarity, but they are more common than you think (or you aren't being honest), particularly female miqo'te. Male viera, on the other hand, are not seen at all. To be honest, they really should not have female viera either, but that is a lot more acceptable in terms of numbers and attitudes than male viera.

[Dustytome]

Male viera, on the other hand, are not seen at all. To be honest, they really should not have female viera either, but that is a lot more acceptable in terms of numbers and attitudes than male viera.

Maybe most of the male Vierra were off adventuring. ;D Really our opinions on it don't matter either way. We don't control the lore and with a few keystrokes from the right person, reasoning can be made to bring the males out of the shadows.

[Kyuuen]

Yes, the other characters are not WoL, which was my point. They are adventurers. So those other adventurers being male viera would make no sense.

The other races have some rarity, but they are more common than you think (or you aren't being honest), particularly female miqo'te. Male viera, on the other hand, are not seen at all. To be honest, they really should not have female viera either, but that is a lot more acceptable in terms of numbers and attitudes than male viera.

The Miqo'te are uncommon in Eorzea overall, as their numbers are not great. The Keepers of the Moon are almost entirely located within the Black Shroud, and those who choose to live within Gridania account for a mere ten percent of its overall population.[3][8] There are, however, some Keeper families who remained in Ilsabard, or emigrated to lands other than Eorzea.

As the Duskwight Elezen generally shun civilization, they make up a very small percentage of any of the realm's city-states, if any at all. They are most populous in Gridania, where they make up approximately ten percent of its population.

- https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/w...note-Keepers-3
- - Encyclopædia Eorzea pg. 087

- https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/wiki/Duskwight
- - Encyclopædia Eorzea pg. 112

Yet Miqo'te make up a sizeable portion of the players. How is that uncommon? It's not. My overall point to what you're trying to proclaim as defenses for no male Viera is that they're not defensible points as there's already instances of them being unreliable in other races.

The mystery of the time traveling Au'ra, the common Miqo'te that by lore are supposed to be uncommon, the Duskwights who shun civilization but appear everywhere due to players.

As I said, no complaints when it comes to those, but Viera is where the line is drawn.