Why FFXIV is The Best

[Anzaman]

Or in the same timeframe, they could have released one complete race instead of two incomplete ones, which arguably would be easier, since you don't have to create lore for two races.

What's done is done, it's useless to complain about it at this point.

Or would you pref. them to scrap races completely now, hm?

Was it useless to complain about no Male Miqo and Femroe, hm?

Eh, not really, people got what they wanted.

But in current situation some people are even demanding for whole expansion to be delayed, when in above case they had Miqo/Roe prepared for planned 2.0 release date to begin with.

So, I mean - yeah, currently complaining about male Viera/female Ronso might lead to somewhere, but at the same time, they might have already plans to get those for 6.0 as new races aren't planned for it, thus it'd free development time to get proper models for them instead of rushed attempts mid-expansion.

[manickitty]

What's done is done, it's useless to complain about it at this point.

Or would you pref. them to scrap races completely now, hm?

Was it useless to complain about no Male Miqo and Femroe, hm?

[Poisonous]

Stop complaining, stop whining, stop throwing a fit, etc. etc. Be happy with what you get!

You can and should complain. I have.

What's annoying is when you throw yourselves on the ground kicking and screaming and start throwing around baseless accusations of homophobia and sexism over a cosmetic option, especially when you already have those cosmetic options.

Please take a deep breath, go play something else for a while, and get some fresh air outside with the sun.

[Canadane]

Was it useless to complain about no Male Miqo and Femroe, hm?

There was not a huge outcry for that though. Not anything like right now.
They did this to show people that 2.0 was not just XI-II.

I'm personally fine with solo gendered races. It's a high fantasy setting, a place where these things can exist and it's (normally) acceptably okay.

[Kyuuen]

What's done is done, it's useless to complain about it at this point.

Or would you pref. them to scrap races completely now, hm?

As manickitty said, was there any point to the complaints of Male Miqo'te and Female Roes wasted back during 1.0? What about bow mage, which from my understanding has seen considerable change from. Was all the complaints about having a Male bunny suit also pointless?

Answer to all of those, no it was not pointless. As those are all things in which we now have.

Even if that were true, they still wouldn't be the WoL/WoD or adventurers at all, since your character would still have to get to that point in the story anyway. The is a great chance that is not true anyway, since you just made it up. We might not even see one. If you allow them as WoL/WoD, you also allow them as widespread adventurers at the same time.

Au'ra would like to have word with this discussion point.

[Zsolen]

Au'ra would like to have word with this discussion point.

Au Ra can travel, particularly since they have various tribes with different standards and customs. Also Yugiri.

[Zsolen]

It is not bad plain and simple. You don't get quality if you keep changing your own lore. Star Wars did that. It created a weird unwieldy EU for a long time with some of it god and some of it really bad. If SE implemented male Viera as a playable race, it would be lowering their standard.

Also, I remember people asking for Ronso or a more bestial race.

You asked for Viera and got it. It's a race where we only ever see the females for lore reasons. As a result, we ended up with male only Ronso to balance it out. It's really not that complicated.

[Dustytome]

It is not bad plain and simple. You don't get quality if you keep changing your own lore. Star Wars did that. It created a weird unwieldy EU for a long time with some of it god and some of it really bad. If SE implemented male Viera as a playable race, it would be lowering their standard.

The lore is based on how their society has functioned thus far. Their home is in peril and that requires them to either stubbornly cling to tradition and accept extinction, or break tradition and venture out to try and save their homes and their people.

[Zsolen]

The lore is based on how their society has functioned thus far. Their home is in peril and that requires them to either stubbornly cling to tradition and accept extinction, or break tradition and venture out to try and save their homes and their people.

Even if that were true, they still wouldn't be the WoL/WoD or adventurers at all, since your character would still have to get to that point in the story anyway. The is a great chance that is not true anyway, since you just made it up. We might not even see one. If you allow them as WoL/WoD, you also allow them as widespread adventurers at the same time.

[WhiteArchmage]

Even if that were true, they still wouldn't be the WoL/WoD or adventurers at all, since your character would still have to get to that point in the story anyway. The is a great chance that is not true anyway, since you just made it up. We might not even see one. If you allow them as WoL/WoD, you also allow them as widespread adventurers at the same time.

The WoL is always an outlier. I can't repeat this enough. The WoL is this strange adventurer that belongs nowhere, isn't of any race in particular (hence why you can be a Duskwight and waltz into Gridania, or a Male Moonkeeper), and comes from nowhere at a vague point in time 5 years after the Calamity. The WoL has no lore to tie him down except coming to Eorzea for whatever reason, and being one of Hydaelin's many chosen, and she can damn well choose a Male Viera or a Female Hrothgar. Other Adventurers are not canonical to the Lore, hence why there can be 2 (6 in an alliance) non-padjali White Mages in one party, or 4 Summoners, or 4 Black Mages, or 2 Scholars.