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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalise View Post
    Though, it does raise some questions about how they go about corrupting someone. Like, do they just have an abundance of that corrupted Auracite? Can all Voidsent corrupt (We only see specifically Succubi doing it)? Are they merely channelling condensed Darkness into the host to corrupt them?
    The lorebook section on the history of Allag has the key to this, I think.

    From page 27, "Victory in Meracydia", it talks about their pact with the voidsent, and that it specficially involved summoned voidsent fighting in the Allagan army. Any enemy they killed could then be immediately used to summon another voidsent into the body, thus expanding the army. Effectively the zombie analogy you were talking about.

    So I think that's what's happening in Haukke Manor as well. The Wood Wailers aren't just being corrupted, they're being killed and immediately taken over by whatever voidsent they "transform" into.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YianKutku View Post
    I think the simplest (and thus least interesting) answer is basically "timey-wimey shenanigans"
    Technically, the simplest answer to solving a lot of problems is timey-wimey shenanigans.
    This is why they had to take away all the Wizarding World's time turners, lol.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnycbad View Post
    I'm sure the amdapori communicated with the sineaters the same way the mhachi communicated with voidsent.
    Sin Eaters from where?

    Quote Originally Posted by zuzu-bq View Post
    the japanese voice actor hasn't worked in the game before
    Is that confirmation that he's a new character, or a misdirection because G'raha had no spoken lines before?

    Quote Originally Posted by zuzu-bq View Post
    Not only that but appearently the First have legends of those who will bring back the night, legends take years to form so I doubt Arbert have left the First any recently, he told us his own tales of victories against the Dark.
    What if Arbert threw in with Elidibus so confidently because he thought HE was fulfilling the prophecy of the Bringer of Night?
    (Man, that's so sad...)


    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    So I think that's what's happening in Haukke Manor as well. The Wood Wailers aren't just being corrupted, they're being killed and immediately taken over by whatever voidsent they "transform" into.
    Agreed. Voidsent manifest through dead stuff a lot of the time; no rules against preparing your own dead stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymoose View Post
    Is that confirmation that he's a new character, or a misdirection because G'raha had no spoken lines before?
    My current guess is the latter, because they rather dramatically drew attention to how they couldn't say the character's name. A new character could have been named and it would be, "please look forward to it," followed by a bunch of people digging on the Final Fantasy wiki for possible past incarntations, but giving the name of an existing FFXIV character whose involvement is not yet confirmed is another matter entirely. Even if they called him any of "Desch," "Noah," "Alus," etc. all of those would point to possible aliases for G'raha along the lines of "Matoya" for Y'shtola.

    Given how the game handled Gaius's return, the simplest explanation based on the current evidence is probably correct.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenral View Post
    My current guess is the latter, because they rather dramatically drew attention to how they couldn't say the character's name.
    I had already moved from Team "It might be G'raha incidentally (while most of the evidence used to support the claim ends up incidentally false) " to Team "The G'raha theory has legs to stand on now." and then Ishikawa-san plugged the Crystal Tower story arc as a way to understand more about Shadowbringers. The Crystal Tower story arc didn't have too many extra tendrils and I think the chances of Allagan bloodlines and Dalamud applying to Shadowbringers are slim, and Nero's beepy boi doesn't have explaning power, so that pretty much just leaves everyone's favorite and/or most punchable mancatte.

    Though characters at the intersection of "Created by Ishikawa" and "beloved by fans" have a survival rate in roughly the Sean Bean zone, so that doesn't bode well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymoose View Post
    Though characters at the intersection of "Created by Ishikawa" and "beloved by fans" have a survival rate in roughly the Sean Bean zone, so that doesn't bode well.
    Yeah, I'm aware of that, too. Stormblood has at least convinced me that the writing team has moved past using death strictly for pathos and are willing to more carefully examine the implications of survival. As long as they can continue to make it clear that these characters' lives could have had meaning and value beyond their "perfect" narrative capstone deaths, I like to think I'll manage. (I will probably still end up crying here, but hopefully they won't be angry tears this time.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymoose View Post
    Is that confirmation that he's a new character, or a misdirection because G'raha had no spoken lines before?
    I assume either would work! I actually went my way to check if G'raha had any voiced lines before to try cross-refference it, and was pelased to see he didn't. They didn't talk anything about it besides confirming he voices the narrator for the whole trailer. If anyone is curious check on Uchida Yuuma's previous work. I don't trust other language's voice actor selecitions for this kind of speculation since they're all over the place. The Japan VA market is very strict on having actors be linked to their characters by contract (usually not open to all medias).

    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymoose View Post
    What if Arbert threw in with Elidibus so confidently because he thought HE was fulfilling the prophecy of the Bringer of Night?
    Damn... now that would be the saddest.
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    The one on the left definetely looks like a light version of the gargoyle voidsent


    whereas the left (to me) looks like an Angelic version of Griever/Ultimecia form


    Now i love the right one's design so monsterous for a being of light wonder if these things just pop out of nowhere or are a mutation of the 1st shard's residents
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