Sin Eaters

[Zohar_Lahar]

So the most intriguing detail to me revealed at Fanfest tonight are these entities. These must be the "trancedental beings" that Kuribu and the Amdapori Lion are based on. Which leads me to think the "Holy Cow" of Eureka Pagos might be a Sin Eater too that showed up in that crazy hellscape.

Of course, what I'm really wondering now is: was Ultima, the High Seraph a Sin Eater that Ajora summoned...or something else? I wonder if other Sin Eaters have appeared already.

[Anonymoose]

I'm still over here cackling at how close we came to the concept when we were spitballing the possibility of temporary "empyrean horrors" that exist during the Flood of Light before it leaves "blank perfection" in its wake. I'm not sure if Ultima could be one, though. Would that not necessitate that there was a Flood of Light somewhere in the past and that it was prevented and that Ultima somehow slipped the confines of the world it manifested in? That's not terribly parsimonious, especially when it's already associated with the destructive magicks said to be "a sliver of Zodiark's power".

Then again, now that you mention it ... what if one or more shards we think still exist have actually already been reduced Light-born void(s)? How would we ever know? No calamity marked its destruction, but there are no voidsent to give hint of its presence. (Granted, Elidibus would probably know and it would be persuasive information to dangle; wouldn't he have by now? lol.)

[ObsidianFire]

The thought that there have been Floods of Light that we don't know about is a scary one. On the other hand... more Floods means more Shards that can't be Rejoined to Hydaelyn. Not going to say that's a good thing, but... the Ascians wouldn't be happy at least.

[FehtSama]

I've figured out the lore behind sin eaters with a simple google search xD

[Anonymoose]

I've figured out the lore behind sin eaters with a simple google search xD

Am I the only one that remembers The Order starring Heath Ledger or ... oh, right, I'm old.

[Amaya-Asha]

Am I the only one that remembers The Order starring Heath Ledger or ... oh, right, I'm old.

I went to movies to see The Order...

[Nalien]

I've figured out the lore behind sin eaters with a simple google search xD

Do you think each type of Sin Eater might embody a specific sin? XI had a series of NMs based on that (Skull of Envy, Gluttony, Greed, Lust, Pride, Sloth, and Wrath), and I think it would be a neat way to explain the wildly different designs we've already seen. Kuribu could embody Pride, for example (the lion too, come to think of it), while some of the concept arts we've seen could be Envy, Wrath or Gluttony...

EDIT: Come to think of it, in XI each race embodied a sin to some extent, represented mostly with the Ark Angels in the Zilart expansion... Given we have Eulmore already showing us fairly gluttonous Miqote... It's also a common fantasy troupe for Dwarves to succumb to greed, and Elves tend to be prideful... Makes me somewhat mad they added Hrothgar, since that brings us to 8 races, making it somewhat hard to run the 7 deadly sins angle here...

Either way, I'm now anticipating an Ark Angel style encounter in Shadowbringers... Maybe it's best not to though, Soken is already giving me Vamo' Alla Flamenco, not sure I can handle Fighters of the Crystal as well... Hydaelyn have mercy on me if he sneaks Rose of May into this expansion...

[Crushnight]

Do you think each type of Sin Eater might embody a specific sin? XI had a series of NMs based on that (Skull of Envy, Gluttony, Greed, Lust, Pride, Sloth, and Wrath), and I think it would be a neat way to explain the wildly different designs we've already seen. Kuribu could embody Pride, for example (the lion too, come to think of it), while some of the concept arts we've seen could be Envy, Wrath or Gluttony...

EDIT: Come to think of it, in XI each race embodied a sin to some extent, represented mostly with the Ark Angels in the Zilart expansion... Given we have Eulmore already showing us fairly gluttonous Miqote... It's also a common fantasy troupe for Dwarves to succumb to greed, and Elves tend to be prideful... Makes me somewhat mad they added Hrothgar, since that brings us to 8 races, making it somewhat hard to run the 7 deadly sins angle here...

Either way, I'm now anticipating an Ark Angel style encounter in Shadowbringers... Maybe it's best not to though, Soken is already giving me Vamo' Alla Flamenco, not sure I can handle Fighters of the Crystal as well... Hydaelyn have mercy on me if he sneaks Rose of May into this expansion...

I'd say they may embody the Heavenly Virtues instead:
Chastity,
Temperance,
Charity,
Diligence,
Patience,
Kindness &
Humility.

[Nalien]

I'd say they may embody the Heavenly Virtues instead

What would these two represent then?



They don't look particularly virtuous to me, but I could say maybe Envy on the left, and either Wrath, Gluttony or even Sloth (since it seems to have somewhat of a crawl going on) on the right.

Of course, if they're literally eating Sin, perhaps they start out as Virtues and become corrupt over time... Humility becomes Pride, sort of thing...

[Crushnight]

What would these two represent then?



They don't look particularly virtuous to me, but I could say maybe Envy on the left, and either Wrath, Gluttony or even Sloth (since it seems to have somewhat of a crawl going on) on the right.

Of course, if they're literally eating Sin, perhaps they start out as Virtues and become corrupt over time... Humility becomes Pride, sort of thing...

Left - Kindness/Patience women's face on the thing doesn't seem like it could be the others
Right - Temperance only one that i feel could fit

These are monstrosities/abominations a perversion of light, these could be the virtues twisted to a nightmarish degree just like the light is destroying existence the devs could be doing the whole turning them on their heads trope. I could be wrong they could be the sins but being called sin eaters makes me think they'd be the virtues instead.

EDIT: Also Innocence is a sin eater so i do think the sin eater naming convention will lead more on the positive side of personality rather than the negative