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  1. #71
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    Duskane's Avatar
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    isnt it messed up that goblet is a housing area and not a tiny goblin
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    Dusk Himmel
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    Ravana
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    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Senn View Post
    Technically, Yoshi P said they wouldn't be adding new races, but he never said anything about genders.
    Maybe later down the line male viera will be added.
    well he says alot of Things like that but time changes and goes against his words
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  2. #72
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    WhyAmIHere's Avatar
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    Mute Shellback
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    Behemoth
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by LillithCale View Post
    So why not say THAT instead of saying LORE when we have so many things that break lore already?
    except he did???
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  3. #73
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    Illyasviel Dawncaller
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    Coeurl
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    Astrologian Lv 73
    I literally have never posted on the official forum before, and registered JUST to voice my displeasure with the introduction of gender-locked races. It's profoundly regressive and utterly frustrating. Please consider adding male Viera and female Hrothgar. I'm so tired of hulking male races and willowy female races in games. I was ready to throw my money at fantasia to become a bunny-boy and that money is gone now.
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  4. #74
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    Anyan's Avatar
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    Zundar Sunstriker
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    Phoenix
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    Astrologian Lv 91
    Signed. This was a ridiculous, lazy and cowardly of them. Just bleh. That's what I think of the devs right now. Bleh.
    (38)

  5. #75
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    Xyno Edajos
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    Cactuar
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    Add it to the list with unlimited BLU and a healer.
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  6. #76
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    Lillith Cale
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    Quote Originally Posted by WhyAmIHere View Post
    except he did???
    He did not, he said lore was the reason. That's how it was translated by Koji Fox himself on stream.
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  7. #77
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    Gareki Yukimura
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    Balmung
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    Bard Lv 70
    I would really like for both races to be playable for both genders. It's unfair that there is still gender-locking happening in this game after ARR famously reverted the decision of 1.0, and that the male playable race is yet another very, large muscular race while the female is sleek and conventionally attractive. I would have liked to have seem more equality in the designs and feel quite disappointed in the company for not listening to our feedback.
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  8. #78
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    Shining Evenfall
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    Malboro
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Not only is the lack male Viera super disappointing the lack of female Ronso is equally baffling.

    Also anytime someone uses the "lore" excuse, remember: a) lore actually says the opposite, they confirm their existence and b) the write the lore.
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  9. #79
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    Sors Tyche
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    Phantom
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Hey SE just model and design two more models and all the thousands of armour sets ontop of them in three months please.

    tyvm
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  10. #80
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    Yvae Sulnas
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    Coeurl
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    Monk Lv 70
    After seeing the FanFest reveals, I must say, I'm thoroughly disappointed. My points have probably been stated by other people already but I haven't taken the time to read the whole thread yet.

    From a lore standpoint, it's frustrating to have the existence of male viera confirmed through text and to then be denied, after months of holding our breaths, any sign of them. In FFX, female ronso can be seen, so it makes even less sense for female hrothgar to not exist.
    From a marketing standpoint, it's... not a good idea. So many people were excited for male viera and planning on using Fantasias and buying new glamours, but with their hopes dashed now, I've seen many a player express their extreme disappointment - some even going as far as canceling their subscriptions. I, for instance, was planning on changing an alt into a male viera, but knowing that it's no longer possible is honestly a huge let-down.
    From a social standpoint, it's almost insulting, really. Male hrothgar and female viera are the very example of fantasy race sexual dimorphism playing on sexist, male-gaze-focused stereotypes; the big, hulking hrothgar representing male power fantasies, and slender, scantily-clad viera women being the exotic eye candy. It's damaging to real people, women especially, in real life. It also denies us the options for slender bunny men and buff lioness women, which seems to be implying something. All body types for any gender should be accessible. A buff woman is not unsightly and a slender man is not weak. This split really only caters to conservative straight men that already have the monopoly on the media.
    And from a technical standpoint, why spend resources on making a new race with such a different aesthetics when they could have gone towards viera men, which were already confirmed to exist and that SE knew people were super excited for?

    Gender-locking happened in FFXI and people were unhappy about it. It happened again in XIV 1.0 and it got enough backlash that it was removed in 2.0. SE said they learned their lesson - but this just proves otherwise. I sincerely hope SE will reconsider; I'm willing to have female hrothgar and male viera added in a later patch since 5.0's release is so close, but to not have them at all feels supremely unfair.

    Please, SE. Let us have this.
    (72)

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