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    Quote Originally Posted by xbahax92 View Post
    Oh my an innocent child... :')
    Although there's no doubt some fan service to the hetero sections of the male audience with female Viera, it's not like straight girls don't also enjoy playing (sexed up) female toons, for similar reasons to why many straight guys play attractive and/or muscled male characters. Not everyone operates on the logic of "if I'm going to be staring at its butt the whole day, it may as well be of a toon that I find hot." There's also the "me but even better" strain of thought. ;p

    But he probably just means girls and guys as in the toon's gender.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lauront View Post
    " There's also the "me but even better" strain of thought. ;p
    That's the logic behind my character and why ended up as a midlander.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lauront View Post
    There's also the "me but even better" strain of thought. ;p
    Me but even cuter, thank you
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lauront View Post
    Although there's no doubt some fan service to the hetero sections of the male audience with female Viera, it's not like straight girls don't also enjoy playing (sexed up) female toons, for similar reasons to why many straight guys play attractive and/or muscled male characters. Not everyone operates on the logic of "if I'm going to be staring at its butt the whole day, it may as well be of a toon that I find hot." There's also the "me but even better" strain of thought. ;p

    But he probably just means girls and guys as in the toon's gender.
    When you're a woman whose "me but better" ideal is being tall and muscled and "eye candy" men are lean and pretty.

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    Last edited by CoolDad; 03-16-2019 at 10:21 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CoolDad View Post
    When you're a woman whose "me but better" ideal is being tall and muscled and "eye candy" men are lean and pretty.

    #relatable

    I enjoy me some rough-and-tumble men, and though I also enjoy that in female characters too, male characters are generally my mains.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CoolDad View Post
    When you're a woman whose "me but better" ideal is being tall and muscled and "eye candy" men are lean and pretty.
    I'm aware some people subscribe to that thinking, but I was commenting specifically on the idea that viera females are just there as a straight guy fantasy pick, when I know for a fact that plenty of women also play the attractive female options.

    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    For my own character designs, I wasn't trying to make them attractive OR like myself, they're just character designs that I liked. Inevitably there's overlap between "I like this design" and "I find it attractive" but that wasn't the primary intent.
    I tend to approach my character design from the viewpoint of how I visualise their particular concept. I won't lie - since it's a fantasy game, I like making them attractive.

    But a lot of people seem to design characters based on the two lines of thinking I mentioned.

    Quote Originally Posted by MrKimper View Post
    Seven days remain.
    cue dramatic music

    Seven fates foretold. Yet at the end of the broken path lie gender locks, and gender locks alone!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lauront View Post
    Seven fates foretold. Yet at the end of the broken path lie gender locks, and gender locks alone!
    See, the original quote was about mechanics you could avoid or recover from. If we do get gender locks, that would not be the case ; ;
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyKaplan View Post
    See, the original quote was about mechanics you could avoid or recover from. If we do get gender locks, that would not be the case ; ;
    Yeah, and the fact that the word swapped out was "death" should be telling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lauront View Post
    I'm aware some people subscribe to that thinking, but I was commenting specifically on the idea that viera females are just there as a straight guy fantasy pick, when I know for a fact that plenty of women also play the attractive female options.
    That was meant to be more of a dig at options in MMOs, sorry if it seemed like I was nitpicking your post. Plenty of women do like to play sexy bombshells but a lot of us like to play things that are practically nonexistent, or at the very least less common, because of the (not even all that true) perception that guys aren't interested in playing them. I've been burned pretty hard by over a decade of hopping from f2p garbage MMO to f2p garbage MMO and I don't want to see genderlocks make their way into one of the few games I found mostly refreshing in this regard. Especially when it involves such a pretty race like Viera and (we assume) a buff, powerful looking beast race. ;;

    I'm still very excited for fanfest. I will be mega bummed if we get hit with a gender lock reveal but I've been bracing myself for it for months and I can tough it out. I just won't stop griping about it is all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CoolDad View Post
    I'm still very excited for fanfest. I will be mega bummed if we get hit with a gender lock reveal but I've been bracing myself for it for months and I can tough it out. I just won't stop griping about it is all.
    Ditto. There's a lot more stuff I'm looking forward to, so I'll no doubt be annoyed about the gender lock but I won't let it hinder me from enjoying the rest.
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