Please don't defile BST

[Madisonlee]

Demi-Bahamut is nothing but flaws. He's worse than egi's in every possible way, etc. etc.

But if I interpret you correctly you're talking about him being lazily and crappily implemented just to appease people right? And so his mechanics are wonky? That's a different issue to what I'm talking about (I'm aware you weren't responding to me in that argument). If his AI is wonky, fix it IMO. I don't know why SE can't accomplish trivial things when they rebuilt the whole friggin game from the ground up.

My biggest problem is that Egis don't look like summons and they are weak. As a summoner I wanted the summons to be doing the damage, it feels wrong to be casting DoTs and the like; leave that to the other mages. I realize it's too late to turn back for that, so hence I said Demi-bahamut was a step in the right direction. Flawed? Sure, but at least he's more of a true summon than the little stupid egis.

If they made Egis look like the actual primals, but just mini versions, and let them do attacks that actually mattered, it would be better too; but I prefer the way Bahamut works as more of a one off thing (like they are in most other FFs)

[Flana]

But if I interpret you correctly you're talking about him being lazily and crappily implemented just to appease people right? And so his mechanics are wonky? That's a different issue to what I'm talking about (I'm aware you weren't responding to me in that argument). If his AI is wonky, fix it IMO. I don't know why SE can't accomplish trivial things when they rebuilt the whole friggin game from the ground up.

This is only part of the problem, and it makes the rest of it worse. But you are also right, it boggles my mind how we're so many years in and pets are still more stupid than a sack of hammers.

My biggest problem is that Egis don't look like summons and they are weak. As a summoner I wanted the summons to be doing the damage, it feels wrong to be casting DoTs and the like; leave that to the other mages. I realize it's too late to turn back for that, so hence I said Demi-bahamut was a step in the right direction. Flawed? Sure, but at least he's more of a true summon than the little stupid egis.

This is going to be a personal thing because I actually like the concept of egis. Having something that you magically built off a framework of a figurative god is cool. The problem (for me) is that the egi designs are too abstract to really link back to the primal. I actually don't like the idea of small ifrits and garudas hovering around town (they really look garish next to players), but the egi's should be at least closer in silhoutte or with more details. Give Garuda an extra set of wings so she doesn't just look like a green bird. Give Titan a better rocky texture and fatten him up a little more.

If they made Egis look like the actual primals, but just mini versions, and let them do attacks that actually mattered, it would be better too; but I prefer the way Bahamut works as more of a one off thing (like they are in most other FFs)

This is the crux of my problem with Bahamut. They already had the base to work more primal spells into the job and chose not to just to staple another shallow mechanic onto it. The only thing new Bahamut adds to your kit is Wyrmwave. That's it. The only spell he viably does is Deathflare, something we've had for years. He just does that twice and leaves, and I find it shallow and uninteresting as a result.

Personally I wanted to see more primal abilities cast by the summoner through the egi (to bypass said egi's 3 IQ). What if you could have Ifrit-Egi put down Infernal Nails as a dps buff to everyone nearby them? What if Garuda could summon Chirada and Suparna like in her Austeries trial, or had other abilities that interacted with your dots like old-contagion? What if Titan-Egi had a defensive shield (make it look like Granite Gaols) he could put on himself and you to mitigate damage? We could have gotten Eruptions, Tornados, and Landslides. Even outside those we could have gotten new abilities like Protostar or Laughing Rose. They could have added so much depth to the pets we already had and we got none of it. We got a shiney dragon once every ~180 seconds that does the same move I've been casting for years and vaguely suggestive hip movements.