Gender locked race?

[Wolfyboy]

The other thing to keep in mind is that WoW is still a western MMO. FFXIV is still an eastern MMO at the end of the day. I can't imagine them designing a race that their primary audience isn't going to like very much just to try and attract these "WoW refugees" to the game. I mean, are they that hard up for money? :v

Yet I hear from this thread that they wouldn't not add male Viera because of all the fantasia money! Keep in mind they're also splitting the data centers which helps leave comfortable room for more new players that are potential long term customers, and more players is very VERY important for an MMO.

Also I hear a lot of people say that they don't want male Viera not added due to Hrothgar; however, we do not know which one was made first. That means that Hrothgar possibly didn't get a female variant because they decided to add female Viera instead.

[Rokke]

Also I hear a lot of people say that they don't want male Viera not added due to Hrothgar; however, we do not know which one was made first. That means that Hrothgar possibly didn't get a female variant because they decided to add female Viera instead.

Does it really matter which one was made first if the end result is the same? We could get Burmecian males and female Viera and people would still be upset at the inability to play as the missing counterpart. It's the nature of unnecessary gender locks.

[Wolfyboy]

Does it really matter which one was made first if the end result is the same? We could get Burmecian males and female Viera and people would still be upset at the inability to play as the missing counterpart. It's the nature of unnecessary gender locks.

Because it shows it isn't about races being gendered lock, it shows that people just want male Viera. If people don't want gender-lock (This is what the thread is about) some people would advocate for both as most people are. However, there are some people thinking that it is Viera being screwed over for a possible "ugly" race when it could be the completely the opposite way and are taking it personally towards people who would prefer something else. Like how apparently I'm a toxic bara cat lover, and this is a Viera thread and to keep normal speculation away that could rain on the parade. (We have show your Viera and the main support for Viera thread if the people don't want opposite opinions on the subject).

I don't only read these forums about FFXIV, I do others, but it is this stuff that makes me unpleasant.

It must truly suck living in your mother's basement, soaking up your own BO. Way to take this way too seriously. As a gay man, I have no interest in being some large and bulky male. I am happy with a slender and toned frame. Get a life. Get laid. Enjoy life and maybe lose your anger and hateful soul.

Also, it's spelled "archetype" if you're going to make a point, please learn to spell.

Now this person was replying to a troll. There is other threads with similar kind of stuff towards anyone who would prefer something more masculine. It is ridiculous. Now, this thread has gotten a lot better so it isn't to much of an issue, but I want people to keep in mind that Viera males may have not been screwed over by Hrothgar and it could have been the other way around. Hopefully people keep the civility so I don't have to take this as personally as well.

[Rokke]

Because it shows it isn't about races being gendered lock, it shows that people just want male Viera. If people don't want gender-lock (This is what the thread is about) some people would advocate for both as most people are.

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Is this going to be a thing for the Viera? Female only? They didn't show any male Viera and that makes me sad...

However, there are some people thinking that it is Viera being screwed over for a possible "ugly" race when it could be the completely the opposite way and are taking it personally towards people who would prefer something else. Like how apparently I'm a toxic bara cat lover, and this is a Viera thread and to keep normal speculation away that could rain on the parade. (We have show your Viera and the main support for Viera thread if the people don't want opposite opinions on the subject).

This thread is about unwanted genderlocks and Viera. Two separate races are bound to get pushback regardless of which 2 we get, regardless of which order the 2 were conceptualized because Viera have been requested since the original desired racial poll from eons ago and male Viera have been requested since the concept art was shown in the HW press tour.

As I've said earlier in this thread, this new race has gotten no lore, no hints, no hype. To anyone who hasn't been following the leaks, this new race will come out of left field. The Devs have set themselves up for people seeing this new race as the unasked/unwanted alternative to male Viera by keeping them in the dark till the last Fanfest.

[Wolfyboy]

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This thread is about unwanted genderlocks and Viera. Two separate races are bound to get pushback regardless of which 2 we get, regardless of which order the 2 were conceptualized because Viera have been requested since the original desired racial poll from eons ago and male Viera have been requested since the concept art was shown in the HW press tour.

As I've said earlier in this thread, this new race has gotten no lore, no hints, no hype. To anyone who hasn't been following the leaks, this new race will come out of left field. The Devs have set themselves up for people seeing this new race as the unasked/unwanted alternative to male Viera by keeping them in the dark till the last Fanfest.

A discussion develops the more information that comes along. This discussion isn't solely about male Viera anymore because we've gotten a whole lot of new information (whenever it is true or not) to work with. If the OP wanted it to keep it fully about male Viera it should honestly be called, "Is Viera a gender locked race?" since Hrothgar would easily fit in the current title too since it would be a gender locked race.

[Rokke]

A discussion develops the more information that comes along. This discussion isn't solely about male Viera anymore because we've gotten a whole lot of new information (whenever it is true or not) to work with. If the OP wanted it to keep it fully about male Viera it should honestly be called, "Is Viera a gender locked race?" since Hrothgar would easily fit in the current title too since it would be a gender locked race.

I don't think we can change thread titles on these forums and I don't think OP expected a 200 page thread.

You pointed out that theres people in this thread (and other forums) that see the new race as the unwanted alternative to male Viera. Their reasoning should be apparent even after all the tangents, arguments, and leaks: this new race is likely going to be presented as the alternative to male Viera. The issue Hrothgar face is that they're apparently a new unique race and they're coming in with no buildup. We're a few weeks out of the last fanfest and its years of hype vs. a coding error. Even if Hrothgar were drawn out first first, even if they were modeled first, even if they were fully completed and ready to be plugged into the game first - Viera females were implemented due to player demand and said player demand bites the team (and unfortunate Hrothgar supporters caught in the crossfire) in the butt when half of what was asked for is left out for one reason or another.

[AnnaRosa]

Viera females were implemented due to player demand and said player demand bites the team (and unfortunate supporters caught in the crossfire) in the butt when half of what was asked for is left out for one reason or another.

Believe the requests were to Viera as a complete race with both male and female not just for female.
There is also alot of fan art for male best way to give developers ideas, best way to protest via art.

[seraphmage]

Does it really matter which one was made first if the end result is the same? We could get Burmecian males and female Viera and people would still be upset at the inability to play as the missing counterpart. It's the nature of unnecessary gender locks.

^ This right here. I would rather them simply not implement Viera at all than to go to such lengths as to create a completely separate race to compensate for not making Viera males playable. It adds further insult to injury when one realizes that if they did exclude the implementation of males, it is most likely due to the producer having an odd hang-up (i.e. thinks male Viera would be "weird"). Gender locking alienates folks who want to play the race but do not wish to play a female character and it's simply unnecessary. In a game that requires a subscription to play, I believe folks have every right to be put out over this decision and to hold the development team accountable should the leaks prove true.