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    It is important to note that the FFXIV-Ivalice is not the FFXII-Ivalice.
    They've been heavly borrowing from FFXII, thats true - but "our" Ivalice has no connection from what you know from FFXII.

    Same holds true for most other refrences from other (FF)-games: Even if they're closely resembling the original game, they're never excatly that. What is true in FFXII doesnt has to be the case in FFXIV aswell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vidu View Post
    It is important to note that the FFXIV-Ivalice is not the FFXII-Ivalice.
    They've been heavly borrowing from FFXII, thats true - but "our" Ivalice has no connection from what you know from FFXII.

    Same holds true for most other refrences from other (FF)-games: Even if they're closely resembling the original game, they're never excatly that. What is true in FFXII doesnt has to be the case in FFXIV aswell.
    yes i suppose

    but i dont like when they do that, cause it gives confusion, and do a melt of several univers which have no real link together, why fran? why not another caracter.

    I mean ok in soul calibur 2 heihachi come from a dimensionnal portal, that give some sens even if it is easy way to give.

    But taking entirely a character from another game and put it here, with no real reason, and another story, it is just weird. ok vivi is in hilidbrand story but hilidbrand is like a side dream joke

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazhim View Post
    yes i suppose

    but i dont like when they do that, cause it gives confusion, and do a melt of several univers which have no real link together, why fran? why not another caracter.

    I mean ok in soul calibur 2 heihachi come from a dimensionnal portal, that give some sens even if it is easy way to give.

    But taking entirely a character from another game and put it here, with no real reason, and another story, it is just weird. ok vivi is in hilidbrand story but hilidbrand is like a side dream joke

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    1) Fran was a popular character, thus why Fran.
    2) If you're okay with dimensional portals, then you should be fine with this. We've had several mentions of dimensional travel in FF14. The Warriors of Darkness came from another dimension/version of Hydealyn. Omega is from another dimension.

    In the FF14 universe, Tactics happened a long time ago and the FF12 Ivalice is a part of Hydealyn. However, just as there are infinite multiverses, so lies the possibility they aren't THE Ivalice from the original games. But since we didn't know anything of "the world beyond" Ivalice in Tactics and FF12, it could go either way. You could think of it as a different multiverse, or that it has always been a part of Hydealyn. That's the nice thing about FF series, is that a lot of it can cross over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaedan View Post
    1) Fran was a popular character, thus why Fran.
    2) If you're okay with dimensional portals, then you should be fine with this. We've had several mentions of dimensional travel in FF14. The Warriors of Darkness came from another dimension/version of Hydealyn. Omega is from another dimension.

    In the FF14 universe, Tactics happened a long time ago and the FF12 Ivalice is a part of Hydealyn. However, just as there are infinite multiverses, so lies the possibility they aren't THE Ivalice from the original games. But since we didn't know anything of "the world beyond" Ivalice in Tactics and FF12, it could go either way. You could think of it as a different multiverse, or that it has always been a part of Hydealyn. That's the nice thing about FF series, is that a lot of it can cross over.
    Omega and dragons are from another planet, technically. The other shards are seemingly part of a multiverse that was created when Zodiark was expunged and reality broke, and other beings like Ultima(and crossover characters, I guess) are from another plane altogether.
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    Fran was brought in to be a tease for the Viera that and she does have a large fan base.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SannaR View Post
    Fran was brought in to be a tease for the Viera that and she does have a large fan base.
    woo really?

    i dont find this character very interesting, beside the 12 was one of the worst ff i did, and i stopped the serial at this moment, and i dont like at all her design, they did so better in the past, i like final fantasy 7 to 10, and if 14 is cool, i dont buy all those stuff about rabbit girl and cat girl, japanese are known for their strange tast in some field of their society.


    yeah i m sorry halfnaked rabbit girl are not my kind. (and no dont out me the cultural justification, it is too much used to explain some abused charadesign)
    thx

    and about the hilibrand, so it get better? for now i remain at the moment where vivi go back with the old ppl to find Kwane.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazhim View Post
    woo really?

    i dont find this character very interesting, beside the 12 was one of the worst ff i did, and i stopped the serial at this moment, and i dont like at all her design, they did so better in the past, i like final fantasy 7 to 10, and if 14 is cool, i dont buy all those stuff about rabbit girl and cat girl, japanese are known for their strange tast in some field of their society.


    yeah i m sorry halfnaked rabbit girl are not my kind. (and no dont out me the cultural justification, it is too much used to explain some abused charadesign)
    thx

    and about the hilibrand, so it get better? for now i remain at the moment where vivi go back with the old ppl to find Kwane.
    They talked about it during one of the live letters leading up to 4.5. The original plan was for it to be Balthier, but they opted to use Fran instead because we're getting viera in ShB. We're almost certainly not done with Ivalice given how many loose plot threads were introduced during Orbonne and in the second Encyclopedia Eorzea, so we'll likely see others eventually.
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