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    Quote Originally Posted by darkstarpoet1 View Post
    as far as i am aware there is not a way to raise and attack one mob at a time. that said, won't use it until i get at least my first win the old fashioned way so i haven't tired any of those other methods.

    the only thing i've seen people talk about was once they raise and everyone buffs take out the mages first. that keeps the rest of the moogle group unable to heal themselves the rest of the fight so they can just blast away at the mele moogles without them healing up and getting the bard songs put on them. that way if they die again after the mages once they get up it's a pure zerg after that point.

    i'm not saying there's not a way to raise up and attack one mob at a time, but if there is then i am not aware of it.

    edit: i'll say from the streams of the fight in which people used this strat you better be on your game after getting up because you will be hard pressed to complete the fight in the time frame if you use this strategy and are slow at dps.
    yeah sounds legit to me then, thats a poor mans strategy sure, and not the most exciting way to win the fight, but it is legal and not an exploit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shneibel View Post
    SE can not ban player because of their own fault to begin with, you cant blame player who take advantage of the mechanic flaw (flaw in here does not mean mechanic error, but it poitting toward the hole in the system player can use)
    I assure you, they can. Not that they ever will for this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheVedis View Post
    yeah sounds legit to me then, thats a poor mans strategy sure, and not the most exciting way to win the fight, but it is legal and not an exploit
    yeah, it reminds me of the first time a party i was in beat dodore. there was a party there and they got down to the dodore and one minion and then they wiped. my party jumped on there fast to attack it. i refused to have my first win tarnished because my first win would have been against a weakened mob.

    i was the only healer so i told them i wasn't going to get a win like that and if they attacked it like that i'd just not heal the party. sure, some got mad, but others agreed to wait and let the other group come back and try it again. the group did wind up beating it and they stood aside and let us kill the next pop since we waited on them.

    we did kill it when it repopped and it felt much more rewarding because we beat the whole thing than it would have if we had beaten just the dodore and 1 minion. remember though that was back before they nerfed the dodore and it still had the full group of minions and not the 4 it got reduced to as well as before everyone found out how op emulate was.

    i guess, what i am saying is that i don't blame anyone for using the strategy to beat it, but i just want my first kill to be completely on the up and up so i feel more rewarded after beating it. to me there is nothing illegal about using the raise strategy, but that strategy just isn't for me.
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    ITT: OP is mad because he can't beat moogle.




    (and i have done it the non-"exploit") way
    brb banning sac pulls in 11
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    I still dont get what this exploit is or how it works
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irana View Post
    I still dont get what this exploit is or how it works
    its not an actual exploit, people dont know what exploits actualy are half the time unfortunately

    is it a cheap way to win? yes, is it a bug or a cheat? no

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    Anyone can explain me how it's the method? or an url?
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    Quote Originally Posted by vax View Post
    Anyone can explain me how it's the method? or an url?
    basicaly, they zombie the fight


    they die, and raise, and finish off whats left, if done right 1 person is left alive during it all so that the fight doesnt exit

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheVedis View Post
    basicaly, they zombie the fight


    they die, and raise, and finish off whats left, if done right 1 person is left alive during it all so that the fight doesnt exit
    How is this...an exploiit? Isnt this how all fights usually go? Or something happens to the moogles when ppl do this?

    I dont get it...so the party wipes except for one person...that one person causes a chain reaction of raises to bring the whole party back up? thats it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irana View Post
    How is this...an exploiit? Isnt this how all fights usually go? Or something happens to the moogles when ppl do this?

    I dont get it...so the party wipes except for one person...that one person causes a chain reaction of raises to bring the whole party back up? thats it?
    its not an actualy exploit, there is no bug involved, and thats the point

    at first i questioned it too cuz i heard rumors that you were able to do this, and then fight without agroing everything(which would have been an exploit cuz they are supposed to all fight at same time)


    but just like other issues in the past, if people dont agree with how you do something, it must not be legal

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