Petition to ban Moogle exploiters.

[Sophia]

2 words
who cares

[Cichy]

This is not being elitist, this is just plain being stupid. The negative press and negative sentiment resulting from a ban like this would drive a nail into the coffin of this game. I've done this fight few times and it's not an exploit, it's perfectly fine in the terms of this games mechanics. Duping items in XI was an exploit and that ban was also unjustified because it was SE mistake and they should've taken the blame. Another exploit was glitching AV at question marks, things that guaranteed you a win. Wiping here does not do that. We wiped plenty of times and got up after astral flow and we have yet to win.

[Pyretta_Blaze]

It is a cheap way to win, but I wouldn't go so far as to say exploit.

[Agate]

OP here. Yeah, the post was 100% sarcasm. I've beaten Moogle myself using that method. Seriously, I wonder about you guys. XD

[Krausus]

OP here. Yeah, the post was 100% sarcasm. I've beaten Moogle myself using that method. Seriously, I wonder about you guys. XD

likely story.....that or you realized after the rage post no one cared.

[Tenshi]

OP here. Yeah, the post was 100% sarcasm. I've beaten Moogle myself using that method. Seriously, I wonder about you guys. XD

The sarcasm was really evident in the first 2 pages of the thread, then it drowned in a sea of internets.

[DevilsAdvocate]

You could fix it by having all the dead mobs reraise if they all lose claim. You could just end the instance if they reset back into place.. There's a lot of things that can be done. Anyways I agree. Ban the exploiters or at the very least strip them of their drops and achievements for the fight. We beat it legit and they should have to as well. Even if they don't fix this problem then when the next content comes out and doesn't have such an easy exploit their badness will shine bright when they can't beat the content and we stroll right on by them singing songs of how bad they truly are.

[Cichy]

You could fix it by having all the dead mobs reraise if they all lose claim. You could just end the instance if they reset back into place.. There's a lot of things that can be done. Anyways I agree. Ban the exploiters or at the very least strip them of their drops and achievements for the fight. We beat it legit and they should have to as well. Even if they don't fix this problem then when the next content comes out and doesn't have such an easy exploit their badness will shine bright when they can't beat the content and we stroll right on by them singing songs of how bad they truly are.

I am truly puzzled by your thinking process

[DevilsAdvocate]

I am truly puzzled by your thinking process

What's there to not understand? The game wasn't intended to be played like this.. There is no reraise spell. The instance kicks you out if all party members are dead. This is an obvious flaw in the game mechanics and those who are using it are exploiting. Seems pretty simple to me. Also I agree that if you ban all the poor players (People who can't beat it legitimately.) then there would be like 2-3 linkshells per server and that wouldn't be good for SE. That is why I simply suggest stripping those people of their weapons and achievements. Hell if it's not possible to single people out STRIP EVERYONE and start a new.. Doesn't bother me any because we can beat it without the cheap cheat.

COME AT ME, MOOGLE!

[Tadacho]

You could fix it by having all the dead mobs reraise if they all lose claim. You could just end the instance if they reset back into place.. There's a lot of things that can be done. Anyways I agree. Ban the exploiters or at the very least strip them of their drops and achievements for the fight. We beat it legit and they should have to as well. Even if they don't fix this problem then when the next content comes out and doesn't have such an easy exploit their badness will shine bright when they can't beat the content and we stroll right on by them singing songs of how bad they truly are.

People need to get over saying "we beat it legit" and thinking it makes them high and mighty. Seen as the the current game's hate/aggro/battle system is all working as intended, it is not an exploit. There are many other battles in plenty of MMO's were wiping and raising is a viable and helpful STRATEGY, not EXPLOIT. All the people complaining about it being "not legit" are just jealous they were beat to the win by a group that used this strategy first. If that first group didn't win, and instead it was Order of the Blue Gartr who ended up winning by discovering this method, their egos would never, ever allow them to go "oh we won, yeah, but we cheated." Nope, instead, this would become the de facto strategy. End of the day, a win is a win.