Rework Bluemage!

[UnrealTai]

I played it on my wifes account a bit. The problem with Blu is that this is NOT a Blu.

The role has always been a hybrid classification and thus its main appeal. Learning skills from monsters is just a bonus, but never has been the sole appeal of it. Versatility is. And Blu in 14 is definitely not an ff blu mage. I dont just mean from 11, I mean in any of them, including tactics a2 etc etc etc. Blu in 14 defies everything about the role in the worst way possible. You cannot melee if you want to, you cannot physical ranged dps if u want, you cant even dual wield, let alone use a one handed talwar, the weapon the blue mage is known for. Tank and healing capability? lol....
The only blue that comes close to this one and is also pretty crappy from a past FF is gun mage in x-2. And even that had wayyyy more versatility even if locked in as a lame gunner.

Going around and adding spells to your arsenal is supposed to be for tactical and strategic reasons. This is nothing but a cosmetic glamouring to names of skills normally auto obtained by leveling. Even more shallow.

Development capped at 50 or not, the vision is pretty clear that blu in 14 will have next to no appeal other then being an alternative to a blm that can solo. Who the hell wants that. Its more fun to BLM in a party. SE should be ashamed of themselves for turning such a complex and deep role in the FF universe into something disgustingly simple and boring.

If they aim to keep it a solo df job, ok thats fine, at LEAST make the role what its supposed to be then though, a hybrid of all classes and master of none make it a master in its own right as it “can” do anything, highly customizable. This solo blm with glamoured names of skills and animations is garbage.

Technically speaking, we failed at pressing them to add Blu, because this is definitely NOT that role.
IMO we need to still ask them to add that job to 14. Ive not seen anyones comments made here on how bad it is being premature either. They see what the role is and why its so bad. It needs to be yanked and given back as an actual Blu, period. Nothing premature about it. When this role turns unlimited, its still going to be a piece of junk and a slap in the face. Limited has absolutely nothing to do with the massive problem, and yet it is a problem also.

I was all for a different kind of Blu to be added, not like 11s, but if what theyre planning to add isnt at LEAST as fun as 11s, dont freaking add it. Backpeddle the role and follow 11s like someone said on the last page until the new ideas are actually...idk...good??? Cmon SE, blu reborn, shouldnt have to become a meme to get something right.

I mean. This is the same guy who said 2.0 War was strong, blamed us for nin being super broken when it came out, and said that ast was a good job you just had to get good with it. If we keep putting on pressure he'll have no other choice but too, A. Rework it into a real job and not a stupid time waster or, B. Drop it entirely. Knowing how lazy him and his team can be sometimes my guess would be B.

You left something critical Yoshida said out, he literally said last month “Ive never thought about turn based battles, I wonder how that would work” and works on Final......freaking.......Fantasy. I literally stopped with my mouth open when I read that reply. For me thats just about worse then anything trump has said or even done as president even. Absolutely horrible. Think about WHO you work for Yoshida, holy cow. Dont take the trump comment literally, Im just placing emphasis on how horrid that reply was Yoshida made.

#fiveroleblu
spread it, tag yoshi and all your friends and all of SE with it, link the facebooks with it.

[Fal_Kearst]

let alone use a one handed talwar, the weapon the blue mage is known for.

When I think of blue mage weapons I think of:
FF5: Knives, Swords, Rods
FF8: Quistis and her whip *drool*
FF9: Quina had a FORK
FF10: Khimari spear good for Yuna
FF11: Scimitars
Tactics Advanced: Saber
Grimoire of the Rift: Saber

They are known for a lot of weapons

[ReiMakoto]

When I think of blue mage weapons I think of:
FF5: Knives, Swords, Rods
FF8: Quistis and her whip *drool*
FF9: Quina had a FORK
FF10: Khimari spear good for Yuna
FF11: Scimitars
Tactics Advanced: Saber
Grimoire of the Rift: Saber

They are known for a lot of weapons

They are known to be a role that changes for what game they are in, the fact that they tried not to change it for this game is baffling.
Edit:
Also FF6: Staffs, Rods, Knives
Bravely Default: S in Rods, Staves, Daggers, also a was a vampire
Bravely Second: S in Axes and Knuckles and cast blue magic using cats

[Dmhlucky]

Lets hope a curveball will be thrown.

A Blue Mage Reborn!
Gets an actual Weapon with stats
Gets actual learn rates on spells and possible some gear to boost that (like they had in 11)
Gets an actual Party role

Just rebuild from the ground. Scrap everything about the current job, as much as some people invested days into it so far, i know personally i'd be ok starting at level 1 with an Actual usable job.

I know my go to is "make it like 11" but seriously, Blu in 11 was designed really well, probably the most balanced it was in any FF game.

And before anyone says, "this is a different game" almost all of the ideas for this game were drawn from other games. They already proved that Blu in its current form Physically works in the game, now just rework it to fully fit in the game.

They keep distracting us by adding "new" jobs, which mimic existing jobs, they had a Great opportunity to make a unique job with Blu, and they just botched it.

We all know they were man enough to Admit they screwed up with 1.0 and we all admire the changes they made with ARR. This would be no different.

[Beki_Bayaqad]

Lets hope a curveball will be thrown.

A Blue Mage Reborn!
Gets an actual Weapon with stats
Gets actual learn rates on spells and possible some gear to boost that (like they had in 11)
Gets an actual Party role

Just rebuild from the ground. Scrap everything about the current job, as much as some people invested days into it so far, i know personally i'd be ok starting at level 1 with an Actual usable job.

I know my go to is "make it like 11" but seriously, Blu in 11 was designed really well, probably the most balanced it was in any FF game.

And before anyone says, "this is a different game" almost all of the ideas for this game were drawn from other games. They already proved that Blu in its current form Physically works in the game, now just rework it to fully fit in the game.

They keep distracting us by adding "new" jobs, which mimic existing jobs, they had a Great opportunity to make a unique job with Blu, and they just botched it.

We all know they were man enough to Admit they screwed up with 1.0 and we all admire the changes they made with ARR. This would be no different.

I'm quoting you, but all I am going to say about this post is that you are a blithering idiot.

Well we finally got him to speak out about blue mage. But fluffy words removed, he basically said I'm not going to take peoples criticism, not in till we add more content for it. Oh but don't worry we'll be adding in some stuff that's "Hardcore" for the blue mage. Yoshi, it doesn't matter how much content you add to this minigame, people are always going to complain about it, becuase they can't do the main content that they want to do. I swear him and his team are *For lack of a better word* fucking up now, first on there not going to add male Verra, or female Ronso. Then Dancer being a ranged DPS and not giving a new healer. Now telling everyone to shut up about blue mage. I hope yoshi gets his act together becuase he's messing up, and I hope he knows that in an mmo you need to listen to your fans/players from time to time or else your game gets shut down from lack of subs.

Link or Hearsay

[ReiMakoto]

I'm quoting you, but all I am going to say about this post is that you are a blithering idiot.



Link or Hearsay

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...uI/mobilebasic

Heres your link. Also your post wasnt that productive, just calling people idiots isnt great

[Beki_Bayaqad]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...uI/mobilebasic

Heres your link. Also your post wasnt that productive, just calling people idiots isnt great

I'm sorry that it wasn't that helpful, it's just when I see someone go "HUR DUR HUR JUST REBUILD THE CLASS FROM THE GROUND UP, IT'S NOT LIKE YOU HAVE LIMITED RESOURCES, MANPOWER OR TIME RIGHT NOW OR IN THE IMMEDIATE FUTURE. Just makes me want to slap them till they understand just how stupid it is to say that.But, if I must...

[Zerogunsoul81]

I'm quoting you, but all I am going to say about this post is that you are a blithering idiot.



Link or Hearsay

https://youtu.be/ZGezcBuu-mc at 29 mins

[Anesteria]

https://youtu.be/ZGezcBuu-mc at 29 mins

Leaving the "limited job" apologists aside, what Yoshida said can be interpreted in different ways.

On one hand they're subtly admitting that limited jobs are bogus, and they know the community reception was bad but they still want to "wait and see" whether they can get away with it, before they officially declare the experiment to be the madness that it is.
The reason why is because of his previous interview on this issue, while still being quite vague, the tone was more final on the "limited jobs" staying, even though he said "as of now". Compare the two and see how this actually sounds way more of an open ending for BLU, since Yoshida seems to have deliberately left the door open for potential changes, by yet again sounding vague and not ruling out that a "change" could very well mean a rework of BLU.
To me, it seems like this is just the beginning of backpedaling.

The other is as you, and others, have said that Yoshida just completely shut down any confrontation when it comes to BLU.

Maybe for 6.0? Who knows.

[Fal_Kearst]

They are known to be a role that changes for what game they are in, the fact that they tried not to change it for this game is baffling.
Edit:
Also FF6: Staffs, Rods, Knives
Bravely Default: S in Rods, Staves, Daggers, also a was a vampire
Bravely Second: S in Axes and Knuckles and cast blue magic using cats

CASTIN WITH CATS NEED IT NOW. Sounds amazing