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  1. #401
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sheriyana View Post
    I will throw my 2 cents in the ring as well to say that I also do not want more Eureka. Even my personal feelings on the content aside (here's a hint, I hate it) Eureka has taken so many resources from other things that it should be criminal, all these emotes, hair styles, glamour gear that they could have come up with actual content to put them in and not these god forsaken RNG lock boxes.
    You realize that, without Eureka, those rewards could also simply ended up being stuff buyable with MGP, right ? I really doubt they would make any battle content that only rewarded cosmectics.
    Quote Originally Posted by Imuka View Post
    Isn't is really sad, that the answer for a lot of people would be no.
    You can't really expect players going back to the same content over and over every week just for the beauty of it, especially when the encounter is always the same. Were fights to include more random elements (in their execution, not their rewards), they would at least feel fresh for a longer time.
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    Last edited by Reynhart; 02-23-2019 at 02:57 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laphael View Post
    The same 100 people crying on the forums dont either.
    Do I have to call the police? I think a homicide was committed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    You realize that, without Eureka, those rewards could also simply ended up being stuff buyable with MGP, right ? I really doubt they would make any battle content that only rewarded cosmectics.
    Adding combat rewards for combat content is perfectly fine. As I heard someone mention before though, maybe it could be an alternative gearing path minus the relic. Weapons and all. Just not the relic. That itself should be its own thing like it was before which would add yet another path to gearing up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    You realize that, without Eureka, those rewards could also simply ended up being stuff buyable with MGP, right ? I really doubt they would make any battle content that only rewarded cosmectics.
    Yes please, I'd much rather use my useless MGP to buy that stuff.
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  5. #405
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    Adding combat rewards for combat content is perfectly fine. As I heard someone mention before though, maybe it could be an alternative gearing path minus the relic. Weapons and all. Just not the relic. That itself should be its own thing like it was before which would add yet another path to gearing up.
    Previous relics weren't really "their thing" before, that's one early complain. And there's no reason they have to give an alternative path to the relic, since you already have an alternative path for gearing.
    Quote Originally Posted by Sheriyana View Post
    Yes please, I'd much rather use my useless MGP to buy that stuff.
    Fair enough, but can we agree that it's irrelevant to the fabled "all the content we lost solely because of Eureka" ?

    On a sidenote, there is something bugging me. When people say that the relic has always been confirmed as the casual, do they refer to this source or something else ?
    I would like to add two points to this, the first one is about the relic quest, the anima weapon quest which is time consuming. You might say it’s going to be time consuming and it’s not really challenging but the reason we have this content in game is to support those who are not good at playing the game, say to beat the raid contents to get the higher items with higher item level, so if this relic quest was too difficult for them then it’s going to discourage them to try it, that’s why this is our intention to make it less challenging for the anima weapon quest.
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    Last edited by Reynhart; 02-23-2019 at 03:06 AM.
    Y: I usually compare FFXIV with a theme park, but the Forbidden Land of Eureka won’t be a place where everyone would want to go. For example, there are people who don’t want to go to horror houses because they don’t see the point in getting scared on purpose. For example, on a date, the boyfriend might want to invite the girlfriend to go the horror house, but the girlfriend just doesn’t seem to find it fun. In other words, it’s not like everyone wants to go to the horror house, but there are people who just love the adrenalin rush they get from it. Think of Eureka as something like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metalwrath View Post
    Eureka has been succesful wheter you like it or not.
    So Anemos had 40% or 50% participation, people who bothered to finish Pyros is around 10%, and there is no way to know how many people bothered to level in Eureka because SE bribe them with hairstyles/furniture/emotes/minions and who bothered to be done with Hydratos, which at the end will be less than 4%.

    When more than 90% of the players who bothered to try Anemos can't be arsed to get to Hydratos, maybe that shows the content isn't successful. But hey, success. Not to mention most people who finish the relic in Hydratos absolutely hates Eureka, Eureka is far from being successful when even those who are bribed to do it, hate it. And people who do it for "fun" is less than the people who do Savage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sheriyana View Post
    Yes please, I'd much rather use my useless MGP to buy that stuff.
    Many of those rewards are pretty cheap on the MB. Sure some aren't but as you know SE is notorious for putting rewards in different content sooner or later. The TT cards that dropped from many NM's for example are now at NPC's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leanna View Post
    So Anemos had 40% or 50% participation, people who bothered to finish Pyros is around 10%, and there is no way to know how many people bothered to level in Eureka because SE bribe them with hairstyles/furniture/emotes/minions and who bothered to be done with Hydratos, which at the end will be less than 4%.

    When more than 90% of the players who bothered to try Anemos can't be arsed to get to Hydratos, maybe that shows the content isn't successful. But hey, success. Not to mention most people who finish the relic in Hydratos absolutely hates Eureka, Eureka is far from being successful when even those who are bribed to do it, hate it. And people who do it for "fun" is less than the people who do Savage.
    Bold statement but can you prove it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leanna View Post
    So Anemos had 40% or 50% participation, people who bothered to finish Pyros is around 10%, and there is no way to know how many people bothered to level in Eureka because SE bribe them with hairstyles/furniture/emotes/minions and who bothered to be done with Hydratos, which at the end will be less than 4%.

    When more than 90% of the players who bothered to try Anemos can't be arsed to get to Hydratos, maybe that shows the content isn't successful. But hey, success. Not to mention most people who finish the relic in Hydratos absolutely hates Eureka, Eureka is far from being successful when even those who are bribed to do it, hate it. And people who do it for "fun" is less than the people who do Savage.
    Yet, these numbers are still higher than those that did HW relic over the span of more than 2 years. You can't change that fact.
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  10. #410
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soupa View Post
    Bold statement but can you prove it?
    People posted participation % here, and it shows only the people who got to max level, not people who finished relics (different people, not no life people doing 13 relics). The numbers are there for whoever wants to look at them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Laphael View Post
    The same 100 people crying on the forums dont either.
    Look at the % of people who dropped from Eureka in each map and use your brain.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alucard135 View Post
    Yet, these numbers are still higher than those that did HW relic over the span of more than 2 years. You can't change that fact.
    Yet you deliberately forget Eureka has hairstyles/emotes/furniture/minions/mounts, while HW relic doesn't.

    Once there is a way to know how many different players finished at least one relic, you will be able to talk about being more successful than HW.
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    Last edited by Leanna; 02-23-2019 at 03:12 AM.

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