Baldesion Arsenal Feedback

[Mixt]

On one hand i want to do this content.

On the other hand i don't use Discord, don't even have a mic.

And every time i try to go in anyway there is either not enough people, or we wipe on either the first boss or the trash before the first boss, because people suck.

So yeah...problem

[Nora_of_Mira]

On one hand i want to do this content.

On the other hand i don't use Discord, don't even have a mic.

And every time i try to go in anyway there is either not enough people, or we wipe on either the first boss or the trash before the first boss, because people suck.

So yeah...problem

If it helps you decide, you don't need a mic unless you plan on leading a party or calling out mechanics. and number wise, you likely dont have to worry about either of those. You mainly just want to be able to hear callouts and hear how people are strategizing the run and stuff. The Discord servers themselves are a bit intimidating with all the different rooms, but the creators have worked pretty hard on making it accessible to new people and making it easy for them to find a group with the same goals (going in fresh, progressing on Absolute Virtue, going for the Ozma clear, etc).

[Nora_of_Mira]

That right there is my biggest issue with BA at the moment is non stop threats and drama which honestly has been started every time by people on some discord that was setup essentially claiming that joining their discord to form a premade is a REQUIREMENT to do BA and anyone that takes a portal without doing so is breaking the ToS by griefing. This has annoyed me since FFXI when Sky was released as I would frequently get harassed by US based linkshells claiming they OWNED a time block in sky because they signed up on some unofficial website I never heard of and had no intention of ever visiting because I had taken out various NM's they wanted to go after. I might have been nice enough to pop things for them with the items I had if they had been civil about it but since they weren't I gave them the option of paying out the nose or go home.

All of those people giving out threats need to be reported. The Discord members (the ones facilitating the groups, not necessarily the new members) never tell people to harass anyone just because they want to enter a portal on their own. Its very well stated in the Discord rules NOT to harass anyone and if people are asking to join a BA run, invite them to the Discord so they can learn how the groups work.

I know using Discord and forcing 6-7 parties in the same instance is not the IDEAL way to tackle this content as it naturally excludes people just by existing, but the way SE has set it up....at this point, I can't really think of an alternative that effectively gets people their clears.

[Doki]

It took our group of 6 parties that only wanted to do a fragment run of the 1st 2 bosses two hours of exiting and re-entering Hydatos in order to all make it into the same instance. We fought with 2 other groups also actively trying the same thing. I'm sure the people just trying to hunt NMs and level got tired of all the /sh x4! /sh x5! /sh x9! They were seeing over and over and over as we all tried to figure out what instance we kept hitting.
All in all, it took a little less than 4 hours just to farm 12 fragments and some obsucure lograms. It's going to get worse by next week as more and more people want to get the shiny mount.

BA as content is pretty fun.
BA entry method is very poorly planned. I want to battle in-game, not battle with the game system.

[Allistar]

All of those people giving out threats need to be reported. The Discord members (the ones facilitating the groups, not necessarily the new members) never tell people to harass anyone just because they want to enter a portal on their own. Its very well stated in the Discord rules NOT to harass anyone and if people are asking to join a BA run, invite them to the Discord so they can learn how the groups work.

I know using Discord and forcing 6-7 parties in the same instance is not the IDEAL way to tackle this content as it naturally excludes people just by existing, but the way SE has set it up....at this point, I can't really think of an alternative that effectively gets people their clears.

Then maybe we need to petition SE to change the way they have this setup that way it makes it more accessible to everyone who is interested in doing the content but not interested in using discord or any third-party programs that are deemed necessary at this point to complete the dungeon

[Allistar]

I kinda wish they would remove the amount of people allowed inside and stop portals from vanishing when used. Admittedly, this may break balance as with that many people things might get steamrolled but at least people could stop complaining about not being able to get inside and play the content or absolutely having to use Discord to form a group. Which makes me wonder what are the PS4 players doing? Or are you guys just not playing BA at all?

Or what they can do is create multiple instances of the BA dungeon and do not close the portals until the 10 minutes are up so that way when one instance of the dungeon has its 48 or 56 players then another one will be open for others to go in until 10 minutes has elapsed

[Darkplanet]

my primary issue currently is that eurekan fragments only drop within the BA. they NEED to be dropped outside of it.

1. for players who just want gear progress for eureka as a whole, the elemental bonuses are useful outside of BA so why can't we get them outside of that? From what I understand it can make soloing significantly easier which will be huge as time goes on, and especially post shadowbringers. And for the record your relic isn't *technically* finished till you get the elemental bonus after 100 fragments, so the whole "don't need BA for relic" is pretty untrue.
2. it allows BA groups to focus more on clearing content, not farming it then leaving it early, this also may heal some congestion of BA access fights, cause a good portion of them are frag parties.
3. it also gives more players incentive to do nm's when they reach lvl 60 and get their weapon.
4. it allows players to prepare for BA before going in, this would then make players more confident to actually access the BA once they have progressed a certain point. Which also means over time BA becomes easier to pug and clear as more people's gear is higher, this would then function similarly to say any savage tier. There is always a way to get max gear lvl outside of savage content, so it should be in eureka as well.

[Xellos2099]

my primary issue currently is that eurekan fragments only drop within the BA. they NEED to be dropped outside of it.

1. for players who just want gear progress for eureka as a whole, the elemental bonuses are useful outside of BA so why can't we get them outside of that? From what I understand it can make soloing significantly easier which will be huge as time goes on, and especially post shadowbringers. And for the record your relic isn't *technically* finished till you get the elemental bonus after 100 fragments, so the whole "don't need BA for relic" is pretty untrue.
2. it allows BA groups to focus more on clearing content, not farming it then leaving it early, this also may heal some congestion of BA access fights, cause a good portion of them are frag parties.
3. it also gives more players incentive to do nm's when they reach lvl 60 and get their weapon.
4. it allows players to prepare for BA before going in, this would then make players more confident to actually access the BA once they have progressed a certain point. Which also means over time BA becomes easier to pug and clear as more people's gear is higher, this would then function similarly to say any savage tier. There is always a way to get max gear lvl outside of savage content, so it should be in eureka as well.

You don't need Eureka gear to clear the first 2 bosses. They were designed with no enrage at all so you can farm fragment. You under estimate how bad some people can be. The other night i was in a instance with no premade group and we kill ufo and 16 of us decide to head in. The other pt wipe to trash.

[EorzeaHero69]

my primary issue currently is that eurekan fragments only drop within the BA. they NEED to be dropped outside of it.

The problem with that is if the fragments were dropped outside of BA, that content would most likely not be as active if people finish the +2 gear and give final relic weapon elemental stats.

[Fiorinol]

All of those people giving out threats need to be reported. The Discord members (the ones facilitating the groups, not necessarily the new members) never tell people to harass anyone just because they want to enter a portal on their own. Its very well stated in the Discord rules NOT to harass anyone and if people are asking to join a BA run, invite them to the Discord so they can learn how the groups work.

I know using Discord and forcing 6-7 parties in the same instance is not the IDEAL way to tackle this content as it naturally excludes people just by existing, but the way SE has set it up....at this point, I can't really think of an alternative that effectively gets people their clears.

I went into a BA instance earlier by taking a portal against another player. I received a bunch of threats through tells, Discord DMs, people telling me they're going to report me to GMs for "griefing" or that "we know what you did". People bragging to me that I'm permabanned from their mighty BA discord, claiming nonsense like that I intentionally followed one of their players (I was at the portal first) to grief them, or saying things like "now everyone on aether will hate you!". I filed a report with a GM who followed up with me afterwards.

Apparently the instance was "reserved" by their schedule, and I need to respect their schedule while they monopolize the instance. Nobody told me this and nobody asked me nicely in the instance. I'm supposed to go on their Discord and "know" this. Good thing I'm banned from their server now, I don't need to look at the schedule anymore. Given the way that these people react, and act, I'm just going to go in again, and they're not gonna have a single say in it. I'm either going to disable the chat or report every single person who rages at me. While I'm busy handling this nonsense, I'm not contributing to the content.

I've effectively been blacklisted for trying to do the content.

I left the discord of my own volition some time ago because it takes hours of instance hopping, only to get into fights with other groups that also want to do the same content. Some of the groups are incredibly toxic/entitled, think they own the place and nobody keeps them in check, I want to do the content. Even if you put in rules telling these people to not be nasty, they'll go on their own linkshells/discords to mash their keyboards.