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    Honestly, i don't mind them having content like this in the game, the problem i do have however is the majority do not do this content purely out of enjoyment for the content.

    Going forward if there is going to be more content like Eureka you can't lock stuff behind it just to get people to play it. ESPECIALLY BiS weapons.
    If you enjoy the content just for the content itself then you need not reply to this with any snark, just play the content for what it is without having stuff locked behind it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Palmyy View Post
    Honestly, i don't mind them having content like this in the game, the problem i do have however is the majority do not do this content purely out of enjoyment for the content.

    Going forward if there is going to be more content like Eureka you can't lock stuff behind it just to get people to play it. ESPECIALLY BiS weapons.
    If you enjoy the content just for the content itself then you need not reply to this with any snark, just play the content for what it is without having stuff locked behind it.
    I think Eureka should have it's own rewards. However locking a weapon that you could previously do several different things to progress is not ok. Give it it's own Weapon, Armor, Mounts, Hairstyles, Emotes, stuff like. Content needs rewards for people to keep doing it. I just think the Relic should be it's own thing not locked to any one thing.
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    Reynhart Kristensen
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    Quote Originally Posted by Palmyy View Post
    Going forward if there is going to be more content like Eureka you can't lock stuff behind it just to get people to play it.
    Then they should do the same with Savage. Make it like Second Coil Savage and ask people to do them just because they like it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    Then they should do the same with Savage. Make it like Second Coil Savage and ask people to do them just because they like it.
    Savage still doesn't stop SE from making other content, Savage is basic content, and all the resources to make something "new" went to Eureka in SB.

    Quote Originally Posted by RitsukoSonoda View Post
    Sounds like you have never completed a relics in ARR and HW when the quest steps were new and first made available. The relic in SB wasn't BiS most of the expansion because of the initial delays in Eureka. Previously the relic at it's highest available upgrade stage at the time was BiS or very close to it. This cycle however I am seeing far more people building relics while the content is new as opposed to ARR and HW which after a point in ARR many of the relic builders had adopted the mindset of "I'll do it later after it gets nerfed to make it easier".
    Finished two HW relics (MNK & SCH) pre nerfs and as soon as possible, and DRK and MCH after nerfs. And I don't remember ever using any of them to clear Alexander Creator.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leanna View Post
    Savage still doesn't stop SE from making other content
    Eureka doesn't also
    Quote Originally Posted by Leanna View Post
    Savage is basic content
    By what definition ? And what does is matter in regards to "people only play content because they want the rewards" ?
    Quote Originally Posted by Leanna View Post
    and all the resources to make something "new" went to Eureka in SB.
    Selective memory at its finest.
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    Y: I usually compare FFXIV with a theme park, but the Forbidden Land of Eureka won’t be a place where everyone would want to go. For example, there are people who don’t want to go to horror houses because they don’t see the point in getting scared on purpose. For example, on a date, the boyfriend might want to invite the girlfriend to go the horror house, but the girlfriend just doesn’t seem to find it fun. In other words, it’s not like everyone wants to go to the horror house, but there are people who just love the adrenalin rush they get from it. Think of Eureka as something like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    Eureka doesn't also

    By what definition ? And what does is matter in regards to "people only play content because they want the rewards" ?

    Selective memory at its finest.
    Delusion at its finest
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leanna View Post
    Delusion at its finest
    At least, I remember that we received two ultimates, two additionnal trials, and maybe two more in april...oh, and a new job.
    But hey, counting that would only weakens your...well...only point, so, I understand why you'd rather not mention them.

    Quote Originally Posted by swiss_Momo View Post
    on a side note: you DO realize that the quote you're showing off in your signature means absolutely nothing in regards to your "Eureka was always meant to be niche content" claim, do you? It's from an interview done at NA FanFest, so a few weeks AFTER Pyros was released. At that point it's nothing more than meaningless PR talk.
    Oh crap, you're right, it's after NA FanFest...2016
    Come on now...
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    Last edited by Reynhart; 02-22-2019 at 04:48 AM.
    Y: I usually compare FFXIV with a theme park, but the Forbidden Land of Eureka won’t be a place where everyone would want to go. For example, there are people who don’t want to go to horror houses because they don’t see the point in getting scared on purpose. For example, on a date, the boyfriend might want to invite the girlfriend to go the horror house, but the girlfriend just doesn’t seem to find it fun. In other words, it’s not like everyone wants to go to the horror house, but there are people who just love the adrenalin rush they get from it. Think of Eureka as something like that.

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    Player Leanna's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    At least, I remember that we received two ultimates, two additionnal trials, and maybe two more in april...oh, and a new job.
    But hey, counting that would only weakens your...well...only point, so, I understand why you'd rather not mention them.
    Two Ultimates for the 1% of the player base, two additional trials because they had to and a job they admitted didn't drain any resource and was done in free time.

    Meanwhile nothing else, just four huge maps filled with random sponge mobs and Fates.

    If the participation % is from people who got to max level at each area, no one can claim this is more successful than any past relic, because as said earlier, a lot of people did only level to gamble with the lootboxes to get the new furniture, hairs and emotes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leanna View Post
    Savage still doesn't stop SE from making other content, Savage is basic content, and all the resources to make something "new" went to Eureka in SB.
    Dungeons did, though.
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