Eorzea has much Light? How?

[Edax]

So I gather that the problem of the Eorzea now is there's too much Light. The Warrior of Light has been too heroic and the world faces destruction from imbalance.

However, the actions of the Warrior of Light have not been able to stop a World War from waging. Brutal repression, slavery, massive loss of life, endless war and attempted genocide from Warriors of Darkness from another world. This is the world with too much Light? Is the moral of the story that war and genocide are good things that bring the world into balance?

I shudder to think what plunging this into darkness would entail. The Warriors of Darkness tried to wipe out an entire world, mass genocide. How can the story follow in their footsteps? How can we darken the world when nearly everyone dying happened in the "world with too much light"? Am I missing something?

[SannaR]

I don't think the source is the one with too much light. From what we know the 1st could have filled up with too much that with even sending Minfilia to soak up light isn't enough to stop a flood. Like if you were going for help right before a damn burst type of thing where you went for help a little too late.

[DeaconMoore]

Yeah, we've been grinding up and snorting too many light crystals. If we keep that up it's going to hit the fan. So too balance it out we need to start grinding up and snorting dark crystals.

Don't think too much about morals here. Afterall one mans hero is another mans butcher.

[DevilsDontFly]

After looking at the trailer a couple of times it's worth mentioning that maybe Zenos and co. will be able to harness the light to fulfill their goal. Since everything the WoL represents uses that light as well, I think the approach of the expansion is more of "Use our weakness against our enemies" and less of "Let's join the dark side".

The focus of this expansion is the Dark Knight, and the whole idea of the Dark Knight is to understand and embrace your negative emotions to use it as fuel to protect your loved ones. If protecting your loves ones mean using darkness to fight an enemy that learned how to harness light, then that's what we oughta do.

[Yshnal]

Light and darkness have nothing to do with good and evil things. They're just two different sources or tools, and as such we might be causing bad stuff while bearing said light (especially if we keep doing as we're being told, regardless of individuals like uncle Middy telling us to think for ourselves). That being said, Eorzea having too much light stems from us winning constantly against the darkness representatives. Remember why the light flood happened in the WoDs world: they got rid of all the ascians there and "won". So, yeah, we're about to go to war. But what will happen if we succeed and kill Fake-Zenos/Elidibus?

[frostmagemari]

So I gather that the problem of the Eorzea now is there's too much Light. The Warrior of Light has been too heroic and the world faces destruction from imbalance.

However, the actions of the Warrior of Light have not been able to stop a World War from waging. Brutal repression, slavery, massive loss of life, endless war and attempted genocide from Warriors of Darkness from another world. This is the world with too much Light? Is the moral of the story that war and genocide are good things that bring the world into balance?

I shudder to think what plunging this into darkness would entail. The Warriors of Darkness tried to wipe out an entire world, mass genocide. How can the story follow in their footsteps? How can we darken the world when nearly everyone dying happened in the "world with too much light"? Am I missing something?

Honestly.. from everything of light and dark that i've seen, it seems like it isn't a conflict of Light and Dark. They use those words, but they don't mean anything. More than not it seems that there's a conflict between chaos and order; which is the theme of a lot of other FF conflicts.
It's just that it's easiest to display chaos and order by stopping/starting war.

So it's not that the world has too much light, but that the WoL is imposing too much order on the world. We are effectively putting an end to every conflict across every continent we come across, and as a byproduct, stopping everyone from making their own decisions because the WoL is telling people what the best end to every conflict is (or forcing it on them). If we eventually defeat the Ascians on our shard, the major force that tries to cause chaos in the world would be gone and the light would start to take over; just like if the Ascians defeated Hydalen's chosen, the largest force of order would be gone and darkness would start taking hold.

[Edax]

Honestly.. from everything of light and dark that i've seen, it seems like it isn't a conflict of Light and Dark. They use those words, but they don't mean anything. More than not it seems that there's a conflict between chaos and order; which is the theme of a lot of other FF conflicts.
It's just that it's easiest to display chaos and order by stopping/starting war.

So it's not that the world has too much light, but that the WoL is imposing too much order on the world. We are effectively putting an end to every conflict across every continent we come across, and as a byproduct, stopping everyone from making their own decisions because the WoL is telling people what the best end to every conflict is (or forcing it on them). If we eventually defeat the Ascians on our shard, the major force that tries to cause chaos in the world would be gone and the light would start to take over; just like if the Ascians defeated Hydalen's chosen, the largest force of order would be gone and darkness would start taking hold.

But the WoL has turned Doma and Ala Mhigo into warzones. Before the WoL arrived, it was a place of brutal order and instead turned it into a hotspot of conflict. While WoL has imposed order on Ishgard, the next expansion was about removing order from far off lands. And the Ascians are actively fueling conflict along with the WoL so I don't really see the problem the WoL is causing in terms of "balance".

[Daralii]

But the WoL has turned Doma and Ala Mhigo into warzones. Before the WoL arrived, it was a place of brutal order and instead turned it into a hotspot of conflict. While WoL has imposed order on Ishgard, the next expansion was about removing order from far off lands. And the Ascians are actively fueling conflict along with the WoL so I don't really see the problem the WoL is causing in terms of "balance".

Bringing order to Ishgard also caused the death of two Ascians, one being one of the Source's Overlords. That alone is a huge blow to the balance.

[Kallera]

But the WoL has turned Doma and Ala Mhigo into warzones. Before the WoL arrived, it was a place of brutal order and instead turned it into a hotspot of conflict. While WoL has imposed order on Ishgard, the next expansion was about removing order from far off lands. And the Ascians are actively fueling conflict along with the WoL so I don't really see the problem the WoL is causing in terms of "balance".

We did? Honestly those battles were pretty short lived, in fact, in relatively no time at all we’ve turned 3 backwater nations struggling against their primitive neighbors into a force that is beating back a technologically superior opponent at every turn.
At EVERY turn. When have you heard of Garlemald actually winning a battle?

1000 year war against dragons? Done in by our hand.

Ancient sleeping gods/mechs/beasts of destruction? Dead at our hands.

Implausible plans like to kill lesser men? Done with our hands.

[frostmagemari]

But the WoL has turned Doma and Ala Mhigo into warzones. Before the WoL arrived, it was a place of brutal order and instead turned it into a hotspot of conflict. While WoL has imposed order on Ishgard, the next expansion was about removing order from far off lands. And the Ascians are actively fueling conflict along with the WoL so I don't really see the problem the WoL is causing in terms of "balance".

That's just incorrect.
I will assume you played the expansion, and you will remember that prior to the WoL intervening in Doma and Ala Mhigo, you had rebellions in both areas acting against the empire AND you had Zenos stoking the desire to rebel (That was kind of his end game. To get them to keep building their rebellions until he had someone to fight against.)

There was not order of any sort in the two areas. There was a chaotic despotism without any real sense of order because Zenos wanted to fan the flames of chaos to bring about someone he would have fun killing.
In 2.0 and both expansions after, we took the conflicts that were getting worse by the minute and ended them; or we took situations that were in utter chaos (the dragon war) and ended those too.

At EVERY turn. When have you heard of Garlemald actually winning a battle?

Honestly.. this is actually a gripe of mine for the story. We always hear that Garlemald is big and scary and doing big and scary things.. then we walk onto the scene and just kind of shove them out of the way.
I think there has only been ONE time where we lost and the story has had some sort of tension, and that's when Zenos came to attack us at Rhalgr's, and even then that just makes us switch up our venue and go dominate the empire on a different battlefield. I think we only really lost one barely named NPC, and even then, if i remember correctly he sort of had the vibe that he was being built up just to lose him.