Eorzea has much Light? How?

[RaideDuku]

Oh, we're not plunging OUR world into darkness. The expansion's going to take us to Derplander's shard which was being devoured by light. That's why Menfilila went over there, to try to stime it. But obviously as seen in the trailer thus far, the "light void" critters or whatever they end up being called aren't taking kindly to that. So, per usual, we have to save the day. But obviously, being a Warrior of Light isn't going to help here, so we become the Warrior of Darkness, not to plunge that world into Darkness, but to bring it back to balance, preventing the shard's destruction.

Why? What do we get out of it? Calamities in the Prime happen when a Shard gets destroyed. Stop the shard from being destroyed, no Calamity. What Calamity? Well, I think it has something to do with the former Emperor's plan with the Black Rose. ===TWIN DOOMS ONLY WE CAN FORESTALL === I mean, that is the whole Ascian's raison d'etre. To destroy all the shards, and cause Calamities in order to cause the Convergence and restore Zodiark.

[Bright-Flower]

They've been pretty vague about what exactly causes the balance to shift and what too much light or dark actually means. Maybe 4.5 part 2 or 5.0 will go into more detail but I'm expecting it to stay the same.

[Daralii]

They've been pretty vague about what exactly causes the balance to shift and what too much light or dark actually means. Maybe 4.5 part 2 or 5.0 will go into more detail but I'm expecting it to stay the same.

Solus is planning to deploy Black Rose during the current conflict and mused that it could be made to somehow interact with the excess Light. 4.57 being the moment of clarity is all but guaranteed, which is part of what makes the wait so awful.

[Bright-Flower]

I wonder if the idea is that the WOL would kill Elidibus who is in Zenos' body on the battlefield and that would be the final push toward a flood.

[Alleo]

I wonder if the idea is that the WOL would kill Elidibus who is in Zenos' body on the battlefield and that would be the final push toward a flood.

Can we even kill him just like that? I mean each important Ascian needed a big source of Light/aether to destroy them and seeing how most of the Scions are out and seeing how we are already in the middle of the fight, I cant believe that we somehow get a weapon strong enough to destroy the Ascian himself. (Also would kinda be anti climatic imo for such an important enemy)

Maybe we do cut down Zenos and people know finally spread the news that he is death, thus stopping the war for a time? Or maybe it is something that Solus does thus its not really our fault.

[Daralii]

Can we even kill him just like that? I mean each important Ascian needed a big source of Light/aether to destroy them and seeing how most of the Scions are out and seeing how we are already in the middle of the fight, I cant believe that we somehow get a weapon strong enough to destroy the Ascian himself. (Also would kinda be anti climatic imo for such an important enemy)

Maybe we do cut down Zenos and people know finally spread the news that he is death, thus stopping the war for a time? Or maybe it is something that Solus does thus its not really our fault.

Black Rose is the wild card. Solus wanting to eliminate the sole dissenting voice among the Paragons and establish himself as the Source's sole Overlord seems in character from what we've seen so far. If the gas can be influenced by the excess Light, that means it can somehow interact with aether... which is all the Ascians are.

[Skeith9]

So I gather that the problem of the Eorzea now is there's too much Light. The Warrior of Light has been too heroic and the world faces destruction from imbalance.

However, the actions of the Warrior of Light have not been able to stop a World War from waging. Brutal repression, slavery, massive loss of life, endless war and attempted genocide from Warriors of Darkness from another world. This is the world with too much Light? Is the moral of the story that war and genocide are good things that bring the world into balance?

I shudder to think what plunging this into darkness would entail. The Warriors of Darkness tried to wipe out an entire world, mass genocide. How can the story follow in their footsteps? How can we darken the world when nearly everyone dying happened in the "world with too much light"? Am I missing something?

I think we're being pulled through time because not only will we soon put an end to all that, we'll basically make the world a bunch of borg like goody-tooshoe pacifists. I.e to much light. If not and this is too much light, I shudder to think what too much darkness would be like.

That being said, Eorzea having too much light stems from us winning constantly against the darkness representatives.

It really really does not feel like we have won enough for that too happen. It feels like we are still losing to the darkness because of the ascians and garlemald.

[ChaoticCrimson]

I was led to believe the current state of the Source's aether would make Black Rose more conductive and therefore effective, rather than if it were still normal where the gas would possibly be diluted by the aether by some degree otherwise. I'm not sure that the two were supposed to really "interact", per se. Nevertheless, it's still a big threat in either case. It's also certainly possible that Solus could use it to usurp Zeno-bus, but to date we can't say for sure what his loyalties are to him. While he has attested to the belief that Elidibus has made good judgements toward their cause, he also seemed almost bitter at the prospect of being dragged back to clean up after Lahabrea's misadventures, and he also seemed to regret that his work with Garlemald hasn't lived nearly enough up to the Allagan Empire's legacy. Does this mean he wants to keep building things up and become an emperor again, and maybe extend his rule across all of Hydaelyn? Perhaps, but we cannot say for certain at present. The fact of the matter is that Solus is still shrouded in a lot of mystery, despite what we've learned of him these last couple patches. The finale of the 4.5 story quests may elucidate further into his nature, but until then we still have little to speculate with where he's concerned.

Where the balance between light and darkness is concerned, it's also hard to say what's happening there despite having a little more knowledge about the subject. So far, although noticeable to those versed in such things, for the most part the apparent thinning of aether has been pretty subtle to others. It's a concern, certainly, but it's effects haven't become severe... Yet, that is. While the Ascians had done fairly well at sowing chaos, the WoL has also managed to slay many primals, including Bahamut in the context of those raids, which had a huge effect on the Source's aether. There's also the fact that a lot of the strife caused by the Dragonsong War is gradually diminishing due to our influence, and Ascians have now started to fall for good over time since the Seventh Astral Era began. Add to that Doma's liberation and restoration and, to a lesser degree, Ala Mhigo's as well, and the cumulative effects of all these events would certainly influence the balance. Still, I doubt these events alone could tip the scales so radically as to cause a Flood of Light. No, I suspect there's far more to it. Were Elidibus to be destroyed indefinitely, that could very well be the push that could start a Flood. And how does it all tie in with Black Rose and the final Calamity, exactly? That also could be any number of things. But I'm almost positive that the catalyst that sets things over the brink will be the confrontation with Elidibus when the next bit of story comes out.

[Edax]

Add to that Doma's liberation and restoration and, to a lesser degree, Ala Mhigo's as well, and the cumulative effects of all these events would certainly influence the balance. Still, I doubt these events alone could tip the scales so radically as to cause a Flood of Light. No, I suspect there's far more to it. Were Elidibus to be destroyed indefinitely, that could very well be the push that could start a Flood. And how does it all tie in with Black Rose and the final Calamity, exactly? That also could be any number of things. But I'm almost positive that the catalyst that sets things over the brink will be the confrontation with Elidibus when the next bit of story comes out.

But that's just it, the Ascians goal is chaos is it not? Before the WoL arrived, Doma and Ala Mhigo were nations in order. Repressed and beaten, but they obeyed. The WoL changed that, plunged Doma into war, even greatly expanding the conflict to include the tribes of the Steppe and The Conderdatacy. The WoL has turned order into chaos, and now Ala Mhigo is now on the frontline of two massive armies. If anything, the WoL has been serving Zodiark's goals of chaos and tipping the balance in the opposite direction since ending the Dragonsong War. The Ascians may control the Empire, but what the Empire wants is order. The recent gassing attempts against the Imperial dissidents should be harming Zodiark's goal of chaos, right? The WoL opposing the Empire is not creating peace, even if it's for the greater good.

[kidalutz]

But that's just it, the Ascians goal is chaos is it not? Before the WoL arrived, Doma and Ala Mhigo were nations in order. Repressed and beaten, but they obeyed. The WoL changed that, plunged Doma into war, even greatly expanding the conflict to include the tribes of the Steppe and The Conderdatacy. The WoL has turned order into chaos, and now Ala Mhigo is now on the frontline of two massive armies. If anything, the WoL has been serving Zodiark's goals of chaos and tipping the balance in the opposite direction since ending the Dragonsong War. The Ascians may control the Empire, but what the Empire wants is order. The recent gassing attempts against the Imperial dissidents should be harming Zodiark's goal of chaos, right? The WoL opposing the Empire is not creating peace, even if it's for the greater good.

I think you're looking at things from the wrong lens. The Empire itself is sowing the Chaos. People can only be brutalized for so long before they tire of it and go to war against thier oppressors the WoL was just in the right place at the right time to inspire them. "Fear only keeps people down until one person no longer fears." Yes they rebelled against tyranny and oppression however the WoL has also been spending time and effort in restoring the beleaguered lands including Doma that's not spreading Chaos that's spreading order.

Tyranny and Oppression are the very epitome of Chaos. Mass destruction of lives again Chaos. in stopping these things things are brought to Order. and there will never be peace as long as the empire continues to function as it does. just as there will never be peace between the beast tribes and the rest of Eorzea however smaller conflicts are the natural course of life in general. so in the end the WoL is creating peace but for peace to happen there needs to be war and a clear victor.