Primal Loot Itemization

[tou]

I don't think the problem is weapons as much as the fact that Materia's value per slot is WAY too high. They need to nerf materia by half ATLEAST and also make it easier to socket multiple materia to compensate for said nerf (not too much easier though).

When you kill a boss only to get a worthless weapon because materia is too powerful, you know something is wrong.

[Jennestia]

Not to mention Materia hasn't been balanced yet since down the line there will be things more powerful than materia gear -- The problem is the stat bases and caps in FFXIV are ridiculously awkward in itself.

[tou]

I would actually almost prefer if they did away with the stat specific materia such as healing potency and just went with +MIND materia or +STRENGTH materia (still reducing the value you gain per materia).

Being able to just stack +healing potency or +attack is stupid.
Also the restrictions they set don't truly give you the freedom of what the materia set was "planned" out to be like.

Overall just feels like another rushed system that they will "revisit" in the future. how shocking.

[Alegis]

And people will be always unhapy until they have got weapon which oneshots everyone and everything.

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Good Thread!
I hope they finally realize how useless this stuff is.

When i got my Mogstaff my first thought was "sweet, chance to restore mp".
But then a LS member told me it only triggers if u auto-attack, so my second thought was "WTF?"
I really dont get it. Its impossible to understand, what they thought when they did create the weapons.

If i had a free wish, i would wish that they think about everything atleast twice.

[LicontAshontear]

Maybe the larger issue at hand is the trend, because soon we will have our AF in the next patch. Do you really want to be sporting the Warrior Axe, which gives something dumb like +10 INT? It would be better to stamp this kind of trend/behavior out now opposed to later, no?

completely agree. Remember how useless almost all of the AF gear in XI was? there were maybe 2 pieces of AF gear that people would use and the rest was tossed into storage. Please do not do this with XIV..make all the AF gear be useful.

[Zarvlad]

I don't think the problem is weapons as much as the fact that Materia's value per slot is WAY too high. They need to nerf materia by half ATLEAST and also make it easier to socket multiple materia to compensate for said nerf (not too much easier though).

When you kill a boss only to get a worthless weapon because materia is too powerful, you know something is wrong.

If you recall what Yoshida said about Materia, you'd realise that more than one materia on anything is intended to be powerful. You'd also recall him saying that raids/instances/etc are balances with one materia per equip attached in mind.

So it's either you spend a time for your generic looking, powerful multi-socketed weapon or you spend time for a good looking good weapon (ok, except for mages?). Double socket impplies either tons of time getting your materias or tons of money, while the moogle fight requires less time and much less money. In both cases luck kicks in for either meld succeeds or drop rate.

Still needs tweaking, but it's a way to balance things. And also, i have no problem with player made things outclassing drops, i means that's the only reason to be a dedicated crafter at this point.

[Alegis]

Double socket impplies either tons of time getting your materias or tons of money, while the moogle fight requires less time and much less money

Not if A: Youre fighting Moogle as ARC (Cobalt Arrows are selling for 100k/stack on my server)
and B: u need to do the Moogle Battle hundreds of times, to get your weapon (like Ifrit) + each pre-req NM for the same amount of times.

[Keftenk]

I'm also curious as to why the Good King weapons are more specified for solo play or play outside of a full party since it's absolutely pointless to slot, gear, eat, and/or use accuracy increasing abilities. Magic Accuracy is a different story, but yea. It almost is like Good King should have been 1.19's content and Ifrit 1.20's. It's a digression in more ways then one ;v

[ApplePie]

The only weapon that is useful is the THM staff, because the moogle on top of the weapon spins.

[Req]

I'm also curious as to why the Good King weapons are more specified for solo play or play outside of a full party since it's absolutely pointless to slot, gear, eat, and/or use accuracy increasing abilities. Magic Accuracy is a different story, but yea. It almost is like Good King should have been 1.19's content and Ifrit 1.20's. It's a digression in more ways then one ;v

Alternatively though, moogle would be easy as hell if it was 1.19s content. I honestly agree though. From a dps standpoint the weapons are terrible. It is like they did a complete reversal on the usefulness of the weapons because of your last post, but it makes it even worse because of that and the added effect on the mage weapons is idiotic.