Primal Loot Itemization

[tou]

I would actually almost prefer if they did away with the stat specific materia such as healing potency and just went with +MIND materia or +STRENGTH materia (still reducing the value you gain per materia).

Being able to just stack +healing potency or +attack is stupid.
Also the restrictions they set don't truly give you the freedom of what the materia set was "planned" out to be like.

Overall just feels like another rushed system that they will "revisit" in the future. how shocking.

[Keftenk]

I'm also curious as to why the Good King weapons are more specified for solo play or play outside of a full party since it's absolutely pointless to slot, gear, eat, and/or use accuracy increasing abilities. Magic Accuracy is a different story, but yea. It almost is like Good King should have been 1.19's content and Ifrit 1.20's. It's a digression in more ways then one ;v

[Req]

I'm also curious as to why the Good King weapons are more specified for solo play or play outside of a full party since it's absolutely pointless to slot, gear, eat, and/or use accuracy increasing abilities. Magic Accuracy is a different story, but yea. It almost is like Good King should have been 1.19's content and Ifrit 1.20's. It's a digression in more ways then one ;v

Alternatively though, moogle would be easy as hell if it was 1.19s content. I honestly agree though. From a dps standpoint the weapons are terrible. It is like they did a complete reversal on the usefulness of the weapons because of your last post, but it makes it even worse because of that and the added effect on the mage weapons is idiotic.

[ApplePie]

The only weapon that is useful is the THM staff, because the moogle on top of the weapon spins.

[desslok]

but the moogle weapons shoot stars, that makes them totally worth it

[KamikazeMan]

I'm holding off on criticizing the current system till the next patch or till jobs are explained in more depth. The changes we're seeing thus far might be part of a grand scheme of things that work well with the job system. Maybe I'm wrong, but I hope not. A lot of things in the game as they currently stand make absolutely no sense, but hopefully things will clear up once we get the job system.

[Keftenk]

That logic would work, but from last patch they admitted that the weapons were wonky, hence the need for adjusting them. It just doesn't seem whoever adjusts them even knows how to properly adjust them.

[Alaltus]

While i dont disagree that the backline mage primal weapons add effects should proc on spells theres no need for SE to sculpt a perfect weapon with the absolute most usefull stats for each class with the primal weapons. They arent the be all and end all of weapons. They should be making situational weapons before they make the weapon for all situations which is what the primal weapons are, some stats are particularly useless right now due to the shape of the game but that doesnt mean it will stay that way.

[Keftenk]

I can understand that to an extent, such as the Accuracy issue. It's only good for outside PT play, but I could see it changing sometime in the future where Accuracy is needed/useful even within the PT. As I said in the OP, the weapons aren't super terrible, they have specific uses, mostly because of the HP restore. Of course if you're soley looking for DPS, Ifrit will trump that, which is fine.

However seeing as this is not 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, etc etc. back when XI was in its prime, I don't see the need to continue the useless itemization of trying to make mages, whom will never melee in the future (CNJ, WHM, THM, BLM) with some sort of add effect which requires them to melee.

Also, this is PT content, so give us items which support that play, not solo play, as these weapons are only good for*.

[Yelta_Sumasu]

As a CNJ... I want a + healing wep or something...... And it is a lilly with a moogle on it so it even looks like a healing type thingie.