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    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenicia View Post
    I could see DRK having way more Crit stat on his EQ than war and war getting tenacity, which bias the dps number by significant percent. Not only that, but DRK having DH could also affect the numbers, since he will have higher chances than 0 to apply the DH and this is additional damage added up, because its better to proc a DH and CRIT than CRIT alone.
    Im not sure what gear they have choose for warrior but it doesnt seem right, when they have tenacity in it.

    I dont think the DPS numbers you give in this table are reliable, mainly due to the gear selection for each job. Tanks mainly are sharing everything expect weapon the stats difference between both is just too large, if a war has about 600 less crit than DRK then there is a problem, since it is not only his main and super bis stat, but it is also bis DPS stat in general. No wonder why war is behind in DPS in comparison to DRK.
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    Last edited by Nedkel; 02-17-2019 at 09:59 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nedkel View Post
    I could see DRK having way more Crit stat on his EQ than war and war getting tenacity, which bias the dps number by significant percent. Not only that, but DRK having DH could also affect the numbers, since he will have higher chances than 0 to apply the DH and this is additional damage added up, because its better to proc a DH and CRIT than CRIT alone.
    Im not sure what gear they have choose for warrior but it doesnt seem right, when they have tenacity in it.

    I dont think the DPS numbers you give in this table are reliable, mainly due to the gear selection for each job. Tanks mainly are sharing everything expect weapon the stats difference between both is just too large, if a war has about 600 less crit than DRK then there is a problem, since it is not only his main and super bis stat, but it is also bis DPS stat in general. No wonder why war is behind in DPS in comparison to DRK.
    People use a magnifying glass to find fault even when none is present. I will explain what the table means.

    These stats provide each class the MAXIMUM DPS each class could achieve with the available gear. The stats in themselves are irrelevant.

    The table shows with the abilities available to the jobs have and gear available to them, and when 100% up-time and relevant buffs are present: DRK deals the highest DPS and WAR deals the lowest.

    However, said numbers are at a ~100 difference, when we're breaking the 6000, it is less than 2.8% difference. Leading to the conclusion: Negligible.

    As for the stats themselves, you may be unaware of the mechanics that WAR operates under and/or are unaware of the implications those mechanics affect its DPS.

    * Inner Release is a GUARANTEED critical and direct hit so it changes the value of these 2 stats. It also contributes 40% of WAR's overall DPS.

    * Critical Hit WAR mainly benefits from the crit multiplier more than the crit chance from the stat itself.

    * Direct Hit is a bad stat on WAR because ~40% of its DPS (the IR window) is completely unaffected by it, this cuts DH value by 40%. PLD and DRK benefit from it as their very close second best stat (where you can't add crit, add DH).

    * Because IR means 100% CDH, WAR CANNOT benefit from Battle Litany, Battle Voice, Chain Strategem and The Spear buffs during IR window. This means when those buffs are NOT there, WAR has it better than PLD/DRK, but when they ARE present, PLD/DRK get more "oomf" into their DPS.

    * Tenacity is melded to break a threshold and gain a 1% DPS increase. That and Tenacity is more DPS increase for WAR than DH, refer to point 3.

    * Why did you decide to ignore that WAR has twice the determination of the other two jobs? Determination is WAR's second best stat.

    The numbers provided in the table are as reliable as they could get. The tables also mention that these numbers will vary heavily in actual fights.
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    Last edited by Phoenicia; 02-17-2019 at 10:49 PM.