So what is a Hrothgar?

[swiss_Momo]

there seems to be an affected line in one of the gladiator quests saying that the Hrotghar have "majestic manes" , wich would add up with the whole lionesque thing.
I'd assume that they'll be an original race native to Ilsabard, and maybe might be just "Direqo'te" that remained there instead of migrating back to Eorzea with the other tribes. Is it next month yet?

[Mansion]

This.

You don't really say stuff like that. It dates your game if you're like "Yeah, this is the LAST race we're adding...".

Yeah, it could actually build up to the expected "suprise" of having two races actually. They seemed really cheeky about the way they talked about it in both fanfests.

[Dagget]

Personally, I suspect that name has been a placeholder for perhaps years, and only now got exposed due to that coding goof.

I'm betting that we get Viera only, and we get male as well as female.

[Metsonm]

Personally, I suspect that name has been a placeholder for perhaps years, and only now got exposed due to that coding goof.

I'm betting that we get Viera only, and we get male as well as female.

Unfortunately, by checking archives dataminers think it was added around December 2018, from what I can gather.

[Daralii]

Unfortunately, by checking archives dataminers think it was added around December 2018, from what I can gather.

Yeah, the hrothgar and viera strings were added in 4.5.

[Seraphor]

Consider this:

The Viera are, in spirit, the propriety of Ivalice and under the guiding hand of Matsuno.
Yoshi and Matsuno are friends, and Yoshi brought Matsuno on board to guide the Return to Ivalice arc, and ensure it remains faithful to Ivalician lore.
So it makes sense that Yoshi would respect Matsuno’s creations as his to have the final say on.
Ivalician lore states that male Viera are so rare, that no non-Viera has ever seen them. To go against this would not merely be breaking FFXIV lore but Ivalice lore too, and in all likelihood, they may think that if male Viera were to ever be revealed it should be in an Ivalice title, not in what essentially amount to a fanservice a cameo in an MMO. It would basically be FFXIV stealing Ivalice’s thunder.

So, how about they get around this, by introducing a FFXIV unique race, who in FFXIV lore are related to the Viera, but this does not step on the toes of Mastuno’s Ivalice.
This new FFXIV exclusive race, related to Viera, are predominantly male, or are entirely non-dimorphic/asexual, but look masculine.
This new race are called the Hrothgar, they’re large, hare-like people, with manes instead of tails.

[xbahax92]

Yeah, the hrothgar and viera strings were added in 4.5.

Funny enough, BluFever mentioned this 7months ago

Blufever 7 months ago#10

Blue Mage is a support melee dps if this helps. Viera isn't the only new race. Please don't make me reveal more. ;_;

[briarth0rn]

Consider this:

The Viera are, in spirit, the propriety of Ivalice and under the guiding hand of Matsuno.
Yoshi and Matsuno are friends, and Yoshi brought Matsuno on board to guide the Return to Ivalice arc, and ensure it remains faithful to Ivalician lore.
So it makes sense that Yoshi would respect Matsuno’s creations as his to have the final say on.

While that's true, Yoshi has said in an interview that the addition of Viera as a playable race and the Ivalice series of raids are mostly independent of eachother- We're getting viera largely because the community has asked for them for years, the decision to bring them in was likely made long before they brought Matsuno on board for the 4.X alliance raids.

[Karl0217]

Consider an interview of Yoshida back from 2013: https://www.siliconera.com/2013/02/2...baby-behemoth/

Q38: In terms of new races, what kind of races are you looking into and will mixed races be introduced?

A38: I don’t think we’ll have mixed races for a while. Since it seems like Viera is popular around the world we have been proactively looking into this, but since having a rabbit male might be kind of weird, maybe we’ll look into having a separate race for the male counterpart.

I believe Occam's Razor applies.

Except that we have development concept art of male Viera released in 2015, two years after that statement, along with a bug (the one that prompted this thread) that showed conditional statements in the code for male/female Viera player characters six years after that statement was made. Oh, and a multi-paragraph lore dump from an NPC going into large amount of detail about the lifestyles of male Viera and there place in Viera society in late 2018. So we have seen quite a bit of development resources - from concept artists to lore writers to programmers to the translation teams - engaged in work relating to developing male Viera in game in the six years since that interview.

So Occam's Razor in this case would be that having invested a considerable amount of development resources over the years for including male Viera in the game that likely the Viera are not gender locked and if that is the case the Hrothgar are probably not gender locked either. Remember that bug showed there were conditional statements for male and female Hrothgar too.

[Seraphor]

Except that we have development concept art of male Viera released in 2015, two years after that statement, along with a bug (the one that prompted this thread) that showed conditional statements in the code for male/female Viera player characters six years after that statement was made. Oh, and a multi-paragraph lore dump from an NPC going into large amount of detail about the lifestyles of male Viera and there place in Viera society in late 2018. So we have seen quite a bit of development resources - from concept artists to lore writers to programmers to the translation teams - engaged in work relating to developing male Viera in game in the six years since that interview.

So Occam's Razor in this case would be that having invested a considerable amount of development resources over the years for including male Viera in the game that likely the Viera are not gender locked and if that is the case the Hrothgar are probably not gender locked either. Remember that bug showed there were conditional statements for male and female Hrothgar too.

The lore stresses how incredibly rare male Viera are, far moreso than miqote, and Yoshi's answer was to read the lore.

I wouldn't say a couple pieces of concept art qualify as a 'considerable amount of development resources', when we've just had a Q&A with a character designer who said they reject dozens of concepts before finalizing one.

You think TWO full races is the more likely reality?