Gender locked race?

[Rokke]

There's zero hints to the vast majority of things added in expansions. Where's the rule that everything has to have some hint to being added? Where was the hint of the Vath, Vanu Vanu, Kojin, Ananta, Namazu, Nu Mou, Pixies, Dwarves? These are all new races added to the game out of no-where with zero hints or clues leading up to them until they were straight up announced (in before they're somehow different because they're beast tribes).

Au Ra were implemented with a complete lack of lore and a complete lack of actual integration. All we had for them was that Yugiri was one and they were from the Far East (and a small mention in the Wind-Up Odin flavor text), and Sidurgu was from a group that came to Eorzea and got wiped out by Ishgardians. The majority of Au Ra lore for Heavensward came from Koji's naming convention post on the forums. We didn't get any kind of actual integration for Au Ra until the expansion AFTER Heavensward. A new unannounced race could be no different. We come across stuff all the time that hadn't existed to us before but the setting acts like they've been around the whole time.

Comparing beast tribes to playable races is a stretch. With Yugiri’s intro we were shown there is a race with a strange tail + horns/ears, that had a face unique enough where it might offput people who’d never seen it, that was from the Far East- a place that had lost badly in a recent skirmish with Garlemald. While we definitely didn’t know the various intricacies of all 51 tribes of Xaela, we did have a starting point. Then Au Ra were confirmed and we got to see what Yugiri might look like under her mask through the reveal art work. Then at a later fanfest we got to see in the game character creation screen, the subrace, the 3D models, the 3D models wandering Ishgard, etc.

Au Ra did not suddenly come into existence at the moment of their reveal.

And the announcement of a new race and that Viera+new race are genderlocked won't be addressed when it's announced? It couldn't possibly be why Yoshida is refusing to comment on if male viera are confirmed? That they have plans to go into more detail when they reveal something else?

Of course theres a possibility of something else. I just don't think it will play out with a something else, hence my comments in this thread.

It took a considerable time (years) to finally get the male bunny outfit put into the game, and it's rarely used. If anything that's a knock against it that despite people being vocal about it, doesn't mean it's something a majority of players want. And considering the majority of the time the Q&A's have their questions pre-screened, it's easy for him avoid having to deal with that question outside of direct interviews. And again, Blue Mage is going to be the same situation. He knows how to handle Q&A's and interviews, he's shown he's quite skilled and avoiding answering things or explaining his reasoning even if it's unpopular.

And after years of attempting to dodge the question we got the confirmation of bunny suits being in the works and then a few more years of being dogged about it's progress and they were revealed at the same con they were originally asked for.

In person requests started in the west and continued until JP and even Korea joined in. Prescreened questions are a thing, yes, but unless they plan only taking written in questions from this point on, its inevitable for a comment to slip through.

he was "prescreened" as well, after all.

[Shippuu]

Comparing beast tribes to playable races is a stretch.

It really isn't. They're both new races that have history, lore, and complex relationships with the people of Hydalaen and are part of societies we knew little to nothing about prior to their implementation into the game. The only difference is we would get to play as one, and considering almost nothing about the game's story has any impact about what race you are outside of a comment or two there's little impact there.
We're about to get at least female Viera playable, who are severely seclusive and not seen anywhere else in the world until they're going to be everywhere come 5.0, including the 2.0 story. We also haven't even been to, or see half of the world of Hydalaen, there's a whole lot out there we have no clue about until SE puts it into their game.

Au Ra did not suddenly come into existence at the moment of their reveal.

Except for all intents and purposes, they did. Their inclusion in Heavensward as a playable race offered virtually nothing new to the game's experiencable story. No story acknowledged them, even when you encounter the few other Au Ra that were present in Heavensward (Sidurgu and Mide, for example.) They don't go majorly out of their way. There was no precedence before, and Yugiri talked almost nothing about her race, only that she had a funny tail and ears/horns.

A new race absolutely does not need to have any kind of build up whatsoever. There's no magical rule set forth by word of god that this has to happen. The most negative impact of just dropping a race without build up is some minor lore inconsisties and that's it.

In person requests started in the west and continued until JP and even Korea joined in. Prescreened questions are a thing, yes, but unless they plan only taking written in questions from this point on, its inevitable for a comment to slip through.

It's very rare they take full on live Q&A, with people lining up. Almost every one of their Q&A has been collecting questions before hand and picking which to answer. But of course he's going to be asked about them inevitably. And he is constantly asked about plenty of things consistently, like Egi glamours etc. You seem to think that just because he'll be dogged in the future regarding it means he won't do it? He didn't get his position because he was afraid of saying no. If he does a new male only race, he will have his own justification for doing so, and that will be what matters in the end. He's not afraid to stand to his convictions and decisions, even in the face of blowback. Especially over something as minimally damaging to the game as a genderlocked race would be.

he was "prescreened" as well, after all.

Proof? Because that looked like a straight up, just walk up and ask your question type of Q&A. Show me people screening them and turning away people. There's not much of a way to screen people in real time, especially when they can lie about what they're going to ask.

[Rokke]

Im going to ignore the beast tribe comments because I don’t want to blow out my back from that reach.

We're about to get at least female Viera playable, who are severely seclusive and not seen anywhere else in the world until they're going to be everywhere come 5.0, including the 2.0 story. We also haven't even been to, or see half of the world of Hydalaen, there's a whole lot out there we have no clue about until SE puts it into their game.

Indeed, they were very secretive and not seen anywhere until patch 4.5, when we got a preview of what was to come with Fran in the same vein that Yugiri was a preview of what was to come.

Except for all intents and purposes, they did. Their inclusion in Heavensward as a playable race offered virtually nothing new to the game's experiencable story. No story acknowledged them, even when you encounter the few other Au Ra that were present in Heavensward (Sidurgu and Mide, for example.) They don't go majorly out of their way. There was no precedence before, and Yugiri talked almost nothing about her race, only that she had a funny tail and ears/horns.

Except they didn’t. Again, We knew she was something else. We knew where she came from. We knew she and her people were on the run. We knew they opposed Garlemald. That is not existing in a void. That is not completely 100% in the dark. She did not exist before the scene of her stepping off the boat, I will give you that. But she did exist before Au Ra were revealed. There are no “But!”s: She existed before the reveal.

A new race absolutely does not need to have any kind of build up whatsoever. There's no magical rule set forth by word of god that this has to happen. The most negative impact of just dropping a race without build up is some minor lore inconsisties and that's it.

And yet they went out of their way to introduce Viera- a tshirt, a raid, a nod in the lore book. Were they secretive or more vocal about both races I would be more inclined to believe 2 races. But to purposely whip up the fans at the start of SBR’s media circuit only to pull the rug out from under them? That is hard to wrap my head around.

It's very rare they take full on live Q&A, with people lining up. Almost every one of their Q&A has been collecting questions before hand and picking which to answer. But of course he's going to be asked about them inevitably. And he is constantly asked about plenty of things consistently, like Egi glamours etc. You seem to think that just because he'll be dogged in the future regarding it means he won't do it? He didn't get his position because he was afraid of saying no. If he does a new male only race, he will have his own justification for doing so, and that will be what matters in the end. He's not afraid to stand to his convictions and decisions, even in the face of blowback. Especially over something as minimally damaging to the game as a genderlocked race would be.


Proof? Because that looked like a straight up, just walk up and ask your question type of Q&A. Show me people screening them and turning away people

Redshirt guy posts on reddit, he is user/Dontinquire. He lied to the guy who was handling the mic: “I told the screener I was going to ask about their motivation for making the game and how the idea came about.” [1] [2] [3]

There's not much of a way to screen people in real time, especially when they can lie about what they're going to ask.

Thats wholly the point I was making. The norm at western events = live events where you either raise your hand and a person with a mic approaches you and screens you question before handing you the mic or you line up, a person with a mic screens your question, and then hands you the mic. Thats how the original bunny outfit got through. Thats how someone asked for peaches. Thats how someone spoke about his account being frozen because of mogstation issues with his bank. At NA’s fanfest there wasn’t anything stopping me from saying “I want to request a hot air balloon mount” to the screener and asking for a butt slider if they passed me a direct line to Yoshi.

[Crushnight]

We're about to get at least female Viera playable, who are severely seclusive and not seen anywhere else in the world until they're going to be everywhere come 5.0, including the 2.0 story. We also haven't even been to, or see half of the world of Hydalaen, there's a whole lot out there we have no clue about until SE puts it into their game.

Please stop exaggerating Player characters do not exist only your own character exists in any story within the game you also said yourself with Au Ra how absent they were in HW and how it took till we went to Othard in SB to start seeing an actual healthy population of them. Viera will be no different we might get a few npcs outside the wood but any sort of a decent population will be confined to those woods.