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  1. #31
    Player AppleJinx's Avatar
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  2. #32
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    MorbolvampireQueen6's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nihility View Post
    while what your saying is technically true in real world application it's nonsensical

    You could go into a dungeon as a dps, have every single drop in the dungeon be dps gear, and walk away without a single usable item
    That is in no way better than the same situation for a tank or healer

    for what your trying to argue to be a real problem there would have to be something like MNK/SAM gear is internally coded to drop at 400% the rate of other sets
    Even in game its true
    Lets say you have box with 5 different candys and 1 pop tart and 1 jerky
    .

    You have a 5/7 chance to get candy you might not like the 1 you get much but regardless you got candy.

    Now lets say a man wants a pop tart more that man has a
    1 and 7 chance
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  3. #33
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    WhyAmIHere's Avatar
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    Mute Shellback
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    Quote Originally Posted by MorbolvampireQueen6 View Post
    Because that isnt a issue the issue is thete are 5 red marbels vs 1 blue vs 1 green 9 times out of 10 you will draw a red one aka dps

    The reds out number blue and green isn't equal odds so its not a rng issue its the pure facts of math
    Let's use your own math for you then.

    You're still wrong because you're lumping all DPS together in this. If a SAM and BLM are in the party and a BRD armor drops, guess who wins in that situation?

    Just admit this is a thread to vent because you aren't getting what you want, and stop trying to twist maths to your ends for it.
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  4. #34
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    Quote Originally Posted by WhyAmIHere View Post
    Let's use your own math for you then.

    You're still wrong because you're lumping all DPS together in this. If a SAM and BLM are in the party and a BRD armor drops, guess who wins in that situation?

    Just admit this is a thread to vent because you aren't getting what you want, and stop trying to twist maths to your ends for it.
    Its not lol its facts
    A dps has a 5 in 7 chance vs
    A 1 in 7 chance for the other 2 roles

    Numbers dont lie lol
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  5. #35
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    Rhulk Roegan
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    Quote Originally Posted by MorbolvampireQueen6 View Post
    Its not lol its facts
    A dps has a 5 in 7 chance vs
    A 1 in 7 chance for the other 2 roles

    Numbers dont lie lol
    Out of curiosity how do you get on healing for Construct 7?
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  6. #36
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    Enla's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by MorbolvampireQueen6 View Post
    Its not lol its facts
    A dps has a 5 in 7 chance vs
    A 1 in 7 chance for the other 2 roles

    Numbers dont lie lol
    Someone is ignoring pretty critical information given that the different varieties of DPS are basically their own rolls for how the game treats them. It ends up as Tank vs. Healer vs. Striking vs. Aiming vs. Casting vs. Scouting vs. Maiming.

    At this point I'm honestly convinced this is a troll thread. That or the OP is purposefully being blind.
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    Last edited by Enla; 02-06-2019 at 04:48 PM. Reason: missed the M in maiming.

  7. #37
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    Dyslexius Nervar
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    Odin
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    We're not the WoD from the ShadowBringer trailer, DPS can't switch classes mid fight and snipe the loot.
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  8. #38
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    Tenebria Miku
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    Quote Originally Posted by MorbolvampireQueen6 View Post
    Even in game its true
    Lets say you have box with 5 different candys and 1 pop tart and 1 jerky
    .

    You have a 5/7 chance to get candy you might not like the 1 you get much but regardless you got candy.

    Now lets say a man wants a pop tart more that man has a
    1 and 7 chance
    Your not using an accurate representation
    and at this point I will no longer respond because you literally said the chances for 5 out of 7 is 9 out of 10 in the same post so it's clearly troll

    You are constantly using this concept of DPS set as though they are all the same thing
    There is no "DPS set" and you keep lumping them together like they are all the same

    A bard can't use any set except the Aiming set, they only have 1:7 odds to get it. Not a 5:7 red marble or candy like you claim
    A Monk can't use anything except striking, they only have 1:7 odds to get it
    A WAR can't use anything but fending, they have 1:7 odds to get it

    It's not a bag with 5 red marbles, 1 green, and 1 blue
    It's seven different colors

    It's not a situation of getting "candy you might not like" It's a 1:7 chance of getting something that you can even eat at all no matter what job you are
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  9. #39
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enla View Post
    Someone is ignoring pretty critical information given that the different varieties of DPS are basically their own rolls for how the game treats them. It ends up as Tank vs. Healer vs. Striking vs. Aiming vs. Casting vs. Scouting vs. Maiming.

    At this point I'm honestly convinced this is a troll thread. That or the OP is purposefully being blind.
    Even if a dps doesnt get the item they need for the exact job the chances they will get it is still 5 out of 7. That is math maybe you should retake math class?
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    Mute Shellback
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enla View Post
    Someone is ignoring pretty critical information given that the different varieties of DPS are basically their own rolls for how the game treats them. It ends up as Tank vs. Healer vs. Striking vs. Aiming vs. Casting vs. Scouting vs. Maiming.

    At this point I'm honestly convinced this is a troll thread. That or the OP is purposefully being blind.
    This. /10char
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