Rngs unfair advantage granted 2 dps

[Sunako]

In raid healers and tanks have to compete loot against each other, but dps can get their loot 100% chance without rolling because each of them have different gear set, if you play caster/ranged + 2x melee as long sam/monk is not in the same party. That is what op is trying to say I think. If you play dps job, it is easier obtain bis gear than tank/healer job where you have to roll for the loot after drop.

[Metalwrath]

In raid healers and tanks have to compete loot against each other, but dps can get their loot 100% chance without rolling because each of them have different gear set, if you play caster/ranged + 2x melee as long sam/monk is not in the same party. That is what op is trying to say I think. If you play dps job, it is easier obtain bis gear than tank/healer job where you have to roll for the loot after drop.

If you play dps there is still a good chance that you dont get a drop for your dps job.If tank and healer get a gear drop yes they have to roll with another person but a tank or healer drop is guaranteed to to be useful to the tank or healer.THIS IS NOT THE CASE FOR DPS.
It also depends on the gear.Accs for example you have bard,ninja and mch all having to roll for the item.Granted you wont have all 3 but a lot of raid setups tend to have ninja and bard or mch.Its also quite common for raid groups to have dragoon and monk.Monk,samurai and dragoon all have to roll on same acc.Then we have summoner,red mage and black mage which share same acc and also can be quite a common raid set up to have 2 of them.
This thread is just about OP complaining because they lost a roll on healer gear and nothing more.

[Kleeya]

Na lately my dps has faster q time than a healer that use to be true but isn't no longer. Plus more numbers means more chance compared to 1 set for tank,healer in all jobs.

Lately q time on healer is like 50mins and dps is 25 tops

You might want to check all languages in your duty finder options to go way faster.

Also please explain me more of how in a 24 raid having to compete with 4 other players for my loot if the duty finder put me into an all mages team, is having an unfair advantage over the tank/healers with no/only one competitors to go against XD

[Nihility]

Don't really understand what your trying to get at.

every set has an equal chance at dropping. Could you imagine if every healer and tank and caster had unique sets like dragoon and ninja
1/15 is so much worse than 1/7

[MorbolvampireQueen6]

Okay ill make it simple.

Loot per chest the odds of that loot being a healer or tank item is near 0 while the loot chance for dps is about 65.9 percent per treasure chest.


Ive ran swallows 257 times now

72 monk gear
23 archer,mch gear
52 Lancer
3 tank items
38 rogue items
32 blm gear
And the rest from non boss chest are healer necklances no diff items or mage rings 4 dps.


Now do this get a box and paper rip the paper 4 pieces per item a char can wear for dps. Then do the same for heal and tank but only 1 paper per piece. Do that four times since four bosses shake it and draw.

This is not how random works because 3/4 times you will draw the dps. Thats unfair advantage.

[Metalwrath]

Okay ill make it simple.

Loot per chest the odds of that loot being a healer or tank item is near 0 while the loot chance for dps is about 65.9 percent per treasure chest.


Ive ran swallows 257 times now

72 monk gear
23 archer,mch gear
52 Lancer
3 tank items
38 rogue items
32 blm gear
And the rest from non boss chest are healer necklances no diff items or mage rings 4 dps.


Now do this get a box and paper rip the paper 4 pieces per item a char can wear for dps. Then do the same for heal and tank but only 1 paper per piece. Do that four times since four bosses shake it and draw.

This is not how random works because 3/4 times you will draw the dps. Thats unfair advantage.

No thats just called bad luck.You can run that dungeon infinitly and never see a tank or healer piece or a dps piece because thats how RNG works.
WHy is it so many newer gamers refuse to accept how random works?You always have to try and make up some kind of consipracy theories about drops.
YOU CANNOT get accurate information on random.Thats why its called random.

[Nihility]

Okay ill make it simple.

Loot per chest the odds of that loot being a healer or tank item is near 0 while the loot chance for dps is about 65.9 percent per treasure chest.


Ive ran swallows 257 times now

72 monk gear
23 archer,mch gear
52 Lancer
3 tank items
38 rogue items
32 blm gear
And the rest from non boss chest are healer necklances no diff items or mage rings 4 dps.


Now do this get a box and paper rip the paper 4 pieces per item a char can wear for dps. Then do the same for heal and tank but only 1 paper per piece. Do that four times since four bosses shake it and draw.

This is not how random works because 3/4 times you will draw the dps. Thats unfair advantage.

that's just the nature of rng
I got the full tank set from there in two runs.
When i tried for samurai i never finished it.

Doesn't mean MNK/SAM gear is somehow rarer because I personally had trouble with it

[AxlStream]

Players dont understand he nature of RNG, more news at 11.

[Beckett]

No thats just called bad luck.You can run that dungeon infinitly and never see a tank or healer piece or a dps piece because thats how RNG works.
WHy is it so many newer gamers refuse to accept how random works?You always have to try and make up some kind of consipracy theories about drops.
YOU CANNOT get accurate information on random.Thats why its called random.

I can't tell you how many times I've heard gatherers complain, "What the hell is with this broken game? I just failed to gather this thing three times in a row! I'm supposed to have a 90% chance!"

[MorbolvampireQueen6]

No it's not luck its math and it puts dps at a unfair advantage by numbers do the box thing