Quote Originally Posted by Ekimmak View Post
Well, it's the only trash mob I've seen in raids while they were still iLevel relevant, so it's the only thing I can refer to as "trash mobs in raids".

If they were interesting and not obnoxiously overtuned, people might be more receptive to them. But if they're just a beefgate that just adds an extra layer of tediousness to a time out... yeah, can't say there's a reason for them to return.
While I could imagine Faust in Gordias causing some sort of hurdle due to overtuning (which the developers did admit they failed to properly test Gordias), I doubt that Faust-Z in Creator was that large of a wall - it's the easiest tier, save for Deltascape, that this game has seen. Considering I dipped my toes into Savage starting with Creator and never had any issues with him. However, I believe if a group cannot beat a properly tuned gatekeeper, they probably aren't ready for the actual boss yet; and a part of me likes that sort of gatekeeping in Savage.