Please seperate the Relic Weapon and Eureka weapon in 5.0

[BubblyBoar]

If Eureka content is doing so well and is liked, it should be able to stand on its own. It can still have its own weapon and gear attached to it and I think that is fine.


But please, don't stuff the relic weapon into it again. Please let the relic quest and weapon be its own thing and not shoved into content that many people dislike.


If Eureka can't hold up with having the relic weapon in it, then improve Eureka instead of forcing people that don't want to be in there to go in there.

[Voltyblast]

Knowing them, they'll probably do tie eureka 2.0 with relic and possibly even more: I wouldn't be surprised if more content will be tied to it. Square doesn't know the word feedback: they know stats charts and only charts.

I mean just look at the basic things: fates have been useless since HW and yet we get more and more fate and fate-based content despite nobody liking it, but just because there are people doing it for the rewards it's considered a "success", as "the chart says..."

POTD, while not amazing, it's still useful for leveling but they didn't even bother to actually improve it: HoH is identical to POTD minus 2 sections and fewer floors but it's barely different. I'm sure many had ideas or feedbacks for it but "the chart says"

Heck I'm not surprised if we even get more limited jobs in the future, since blue mage was massively played: they'll probably see it as a huge success and make more limited jobs, and only because "the chart says..."

TL;DR: Expect more and more tied content to Eureka, as they think it was a success.

[ElazulHP]

Knowing them, they'll probably do tie eureka 2.0 with relic and possibly even more: I wouldn't be surprised if more content will be tied to it. Square doesn't know the word feedback: they know stats charts and only charts.

I mean just look at the basic things: fates have been useless since HW and yet we get more and more fate and fate-based content despite nobody liking it, but just because there are people doing it for the rewards it's considered a "success", as "the chart says..."

POTD, while not amazing, it's still useful for leveling but they didn't even bother to actually improve it: HoH is identical to POTD minus 2 sections and fewer floors but it's barely different. I'm sure many had ideas or feedbacks for it but "the chart says"

Heck I'm not surprised if we even get more limited jobs in the future, since blue mage was massively played: they'll probably see it as a huge success and make more limited jobs, and only because "the chart says..."

TL;DR: Expect more and more tied content to Eureka, as they think it was a success.

This is every large corporate entity every though. They don't trust forums and other forms of communication because a few loud voices can hijack the discussion just by being really loud and obnoxious. So they'll look at the numbers they can control for themselves. People really need to stop playing Eureka if they don't like Eureka. It's the only way for them to actually send a message that SE will understand. You're very correct when you say they think its a success because "the chart says..."

[Hakuro89]

Eureka was failed content. Do not do it again. Many of those that participated only did so because the relics were locked behind it. Stop trying to force Diadem to work.

[Canadane]

I doubt Eureka will continue into ShB.
However this isn't because it was failed content. Quite the opposite. It was content people liked (well Pagos was....) for the most part.
It actively had people in there all the time, still does at the time of this post. All regions! I might go Penty farming later today in fact.

The reason I don't think it's going to continue is the same reason Diadem didn't continue. Again, not because it was failed content (and that arguably was), it's because they learn from what they did, and carry on to improve later objectives.
Diadem, Diadem 2, and all the versions of Eureka are teaching the devs what people like to do in these things. They get more creative with each rendition. Pyros was hella fun.

So while Eureka won't continue, something else will surely take it's place.

[Alexandre_Noireau]

So while Eureka won't continue, something else will surely take it's place.

Yeah, i imagine a region, divided into zones, where people needs to level up from the start in an alternative progress line and then farm and grind enemies and FAT--- Notorious Monsters (Completely diferent things!) as they progress their gear. I bet is not even gonna be called The Diade- Eureka anymore!

BTW, you think Heaven on High is new content and totally not Palace of the Dead with other assets, right?

[LaylaTsarra]

I doubt Eureka will continue into ShB.
However this isn't because it was failed content. Quite the opposite. It was content people liked (well Pagos was....) for the most part.
It actively had people in there all the time, still does at the time of this post. All regions! I might go Penty farming later today in fact.

The reason I don't think it's going to continue is the same reason Diadem didn't continue. Again, not because it was failed content (and that arguably was), it's because they learn from what they did, and carry on to improve later objectives.
Diadem, Diadem 2, and all the versions of Eureka are teaching the devs what people like to do in these things. They get more creative with each rendition. Pyros was hella fun.

So while Eureka won't continue, something else will surely take it's place.

Seems very popular to me in spite of the sages on this forum predicting anemos would be dead in a month when everyone got to 20. I personally enjoy it. Thats not to say I want to see a repeat of Eureka in Shadowbringers. I would hope the relic quest will be different from what it's been in the past. What i don't want to see in another tome grind into oblivion in order to earn one.

[Jonnara]

Seems very popular to me in spite of the sages on this forum predicting anemos would be dead in a month when everyone got to 20. I personally enjoy it. Thats not to say I want to see a repeat of Eureka in Shadowbringers. I would hope the relic quest will be different from what it's been in the past. What i don't want to see in another tome grind into oblivion in order to earn one.

Anemos was fine, Pagos I will not touch it with a 10 foot pole.

[LaylaTsarra]

Anemos was fine, Pagos I will not touch it with a 10 foot pole.

I actually enjoyed pagos. Leveled a number of toons there. Sorry but I thought the additional challenge of getting around was fine. They've nerfed it now so it's a lot easier for those who didn't want to do it. Spawn rates and aether levels make it pretty easy now.

I wouldn't be opposed to open world content in Shadowbringers but I would also hope it wouldn't just be a rehash of Eureka Stormblood with a new coat of paint. We'll have to wait and see what they have in mind.

[Jandor]

Anemos was fine, Pagos I will not touch it with a 10 foot pole.

Pagos is fine now, I might even go so far as to say it's my favourite of the three. It's much more newbie friendly now that the TP points have been adjusted too.

Everyone raves about Pyros but it feels incredibly overrated to me, I found logograms more annoying than interesting, and these days 90% of the instance just AFKs in town.