Please seperate the Relic Weapon and Eureka weapon in 5.0

[guardin]

Knowing them, they'll probably do tie eureka 2.0 with relic and possibly even more: I wouldn't be surprised if more content will be tied to it. Square doesn't know the word feedback: they know stats charts and only charts.

They know the word feedback, but when it is terrible like 90% of the forums, it will ruin the game and we would never have anything fun. So they look over it. Bad advise is bad

I mean just look at the basic things: fates have been useless since HW and yet we get more and more fate and fate-based content despite nobody liking it, but just because there are people doing it for the rewards it's considered a "success", as "the chart says..."
Because people like it way more? Most people like the relic now cause in 2.0/3.0 10% of the people even bothered with it. You are the vocal minority that wants things their way and not the community as a whole.
POTD, while not amazing, it's still useful for leveling but they didn't even bother to actually improve it: HoH is identical to POTD minus 2 sections and fewer floors but it's barely different. I'm sure many had ideas or feedbacks for it but "the chart says"

This is why SE cannot implement your criticism, it is not constructive just whining. The community is thrilled with HoH and the changes. It is not completely different but a lot more fun and visually impressive then POTD

Heck I'm not surprised if we even get more limited jobs in the future, since blue mage was massively played: they'll probably see it as a huge success and make more limited jobs, and only because "the chart says..."

It IS a massive success. Besides the vocal minority, the community is thrilled and cannot wait to see more limited classes because we are finally getting unique content that isn't some savage raid or dungeon that appeal really doesn't last. Wasn't for daily, people wouldnt even go back to em.

TL;DR: Expect more and more tied content to Eureka, as they think it was a success.

reality check, it was a success and each installment got better as it went on. Eureka was filled with happy people with great memories. Not perfect, but mistakes are to learn from which is why Pagos is the best installment of the series

Eureka was failed content. Do not do it again. Many of those that participated only did so because the relics were locked behind it. Stop trying to force Diadem to work.

Diadem isnt not the same at all. Eureka was a success and completely different. We have bunnies, logos action, ultimate dungeon, and people actually working together. Take away the "glowing circle fate" and it is an open world boss like most mmos have."

Eureka is garbage. Just scrap the whole thing.

Nah, scrap players who just redicule everything. I dont like crafting and savage and ultimate, but people do. So why scrap it? People like Eureka but you dont, so why scrap it? That is entitledment

Supporting this call to provide a relic-like weapon separate from the Eureka-like content in Shadowbringers

It doesnt have to be Eureka but please be open world brand new content and not the mess of 2.0/3.0.

Keep the relic out of eureka please

Keep the relic in please! We finally have content people enjoy.

Keep the relic out of new!Eureka please.
Keep it in please!
Alternatively, allow the Eureka relic to be purchased for obscene amounts of tomestones without setting foot inside Eureka.
Heck, do this for 4.0's Eureka relic in 5.0 and you'll have my eternal gratitude.
Even better - do it in 4.58, so that all of us who would sooner slit our wrists than return to Eureka have something to do in May and June.
People hated 2.0/3.0 but people found a way to enjoy eureka. community finally communicating, laughing, fighting, working together, having fun.Ups and down creating memories. Gasp its so bad
Alternatively alternatively, have two (identical stat, different glamour) versions of the relic weapon - one gained inside new!Eureka, and one gained outside.
The outside one obtained along the lines of ARR and HW. Maybe exactly the same, though I'm sure you're capable of coming up with new twists.
The point being that the non-Eureka relic has multiple ways of being obtained, can be done mostly solo, in sub-20 minute chunks, and is based on content that all level 70s have proven they enjoy, or can at least tolerate, simply by virtue of being level 70.

Better still - don't waste more resources on a new Eureka...
I know it's far too late for that to happen, if it's planned to happen.
Though if I were in your shoes, I'd strongly consider, say, reusing 4.0!Eureka's maps for 5.0!Eureka or something. Anything to re-focus dev resources where they'd actually be appreciated...

Eureka is finshiedso no more resources, however please continue the trend and make an even better eureka for the relic in 5.0 being open world and add quests, weaker monsters, and actual exploration and skills like super jumping, climbing, rock breaking, deep dive, and skills that arent for combat but to transverse the world to reach new locations.