OH GOD NO...

[Kazrah]

You can keep your Diadem 4.0, just keep the relic out of it.

Not gonna lie, I'd much rather have Diadem back. That's how much I hate Eureka.

If they do intend on tying the relic into it though, I just hope they dumb it down compared to Eureka and keep remembering that the relic is always intended to be the weapon path option for casual players (yes tryhards, I know they're BiS, but you have savage weapons #dealwithit).

[Nayout]

Not gonna lie, I'd much rather have Diadem back. That's how much I hate Eureka.

If they do intend on tying the relic into it though, I just hope they dumb it down compared to Eureka and keep remembering that the relic is always intended to be the weapon path option for casual players (yes tryhards, I know they're BiS, but you have savage weapons #dealwithit).

And it is still for casual players, the relic does not require anything more than time like the other relics, only that people end up accustomed to that in HW the relic will be completed without doing anything.

[Beckett]

Not gonna lie, I'd much rather have Diadem back. That's how much I hate Eureka.

This. Diadem 2.0 was actually fun, even if it was woefully shortsighted. ("Hey, let's release level 60 content with level 60 rewards immediately before raising the level cap to 70! That's content that is sure to last!")

If Diadem 1.0 hadn't soured the entire concept, and if they had actually kept supporting Diadem 2.0, I could see it being very successful content.

I've seen the opposite ingame.

The majority of my fc, linkshells and friendlist didn't bother and quit Eureka at Pagos or before. I've very rarely ever seen a "Eureka is really fun!" comment ingame, but countless complaints and rants. When Anemos launched and people tried it out, there were lots of full 200 player instances, you could hop between them searching for Fates, but Pagos and Pyros barely fill 2 instances at peak time and this is pulling players from across the datacentre.

Pyros was admittedly an improvement, if they continue to polish that they might make something of it. But they're playing a risky game. There are a lot of mixed feelings and bitter tastes over Eureka, they'd very likely take a moderate sub hit if they messed it up.

The majority of my FC hates Eureka. There are a few diehards who enjoy it, but it's gotten to the point that my FC leader tries desperately to quell the Eureka hate because of the legitimate fear that people will quit the game over it.