OH GOD NO...

[Lauront]

If it's modeled off and improves on Pyros, I have absolutely no problem with it. I liked it. The grind is also much less intense than anything before, like the Lux relics, so you can be out of it much faster, unless you're grinding a whole load of weapons.

I'm afraid I don't really see the issue with it. It is optional content and mostly for glamours.

The thing is a lot of people are there for the relic only. The question is whether or not the relic will be locked behind it again in the next expansion. That will be a part of how successful or not it'll be, I think.

As an added bonus, they can be done with it much faster than they ever could with the more prohibitive Lux grind.

[Burningskull]

If it's modeled off and improves on Pyros, I have absolutely no problem with it. I liked it. The grind is also much less intense than anything before, like the Lux relics, so you can be out of it much faster, unless you're grinding a whole load of weapons.

I'm afraid I don't really see the issue with it. It is optional content and mostly for glamours.



As an added bonus, they can be done with it much faster than they ever could with the more prohibitive Lux grind.

What is so great about Pyros? Sure you level faster but the crappy Logos Actions kill it for me. You can only get them from the stupid bunny chests, which is random if you get a bunny if there are to many people at the fate, random what chest you get, random what logo gram you get, and THEN it's random what logos action you get. On top of that you can only have 3 logo grams at a time. So any you make to complete your book get tossed out. Then if you still have a bunch of uses left of your logos action and you leave and reenter it's gone. Wither you had 99 casts left or 1. Then some of the stupid actions are so hard to get and combine into to make some really cool super action it gets "to good to use" syndrom. And to top it all off you don't even need logos actions in the zone. Man I HATE Eureka.

[Theodric]

You can only get them from the stupid bunny chests, which is random if you get a bunny if there are to many people at the fate, random what chest you get, random what logo gram you get, and THEN it's random what logos action you get.

You can buy them off of the Market Board. I made millions of gil selling them during the first few weeks.

[Burningskull]

You can buy them off of the Market Board. I made millions of gil selling them during the first few weeks.

So people should be forced to spend gil on something they can get out of a chest to complete something required to get your weapon? That's no different than having to pay crafters for items for the ARR and HW relics and they eventually fixed that with the HW relics. Just because you can throw gil at something doesn't mean the system is okay or good. I also don't have millions of gil to spend on crappy logo grams I'm never going to use. Or perhaps I should say I refuse to.

[Theodric]

So people should be forced to spend gil on something they can get out of a chest to complete something required to get your weapon? That's no different than having to pay crafters for items for the ARR and HW relics and they eventually fixed that with the HW relics. Just because you can throw gil at something doesn't mean the system is okay or good. I also don't have millions of gil to spend on crappy logo grams I'm never going to use. Or perhaps I should say I refuse to.

Gil isn't particularly difficult to make in this game and is typically best spent on something once you've gathered a decent amount. It's an option on the table, not a necessity - yet one that serves as a great convenience and worthwhile investment.

[Crushnight]

What is so great about Pyros? Sure you level faster but the crappy Logos Actions kill it for me. You can only get them from the stupid bunny chests, which is random if you get a bunny if there are to many people at the fate, random what chest you get, random what logo gram you get, and THEN it's random what logos action you get. .

your overreacting and you know it you can get the 30 abilities needed for the weapon without touching a single bunny fate easily you only need to do bunnies if you want the mount hair or Armor even getting the armor doesn't require doing bunnies if you have gil you are willing to spend i understand you don't like it and that is fine Eureka has its fans and i'm glad they seem to continue to cater to them my hope is they do not tie as much resources as they have with SB to it going forward and give something the general populace would be more happy with.

[Lauront]

What is so great about Pyros? Sure you level faster but the crappy Logos Actions kill it for me. You can only get them from the stupid bunny chests, which is random if you get a bunny if there are to many people at the fate, random what chest you get, random what logo gram you get, and THEN it's random what logos action you get. On top of that you can only have 3 logo grams at a time. So any you make to complete your book get tossed out. Then if you still have a bunch of uses left of your logos action and you leave and reenter it's gone. Wither you had 99 casts left or 1. Then some of the stupid actions are so hard to get and combine into to make some really cool super action it gets "to good to use" syndrom. And to top it all off you don't even need logos actions in the zone. Man I HATE Eureka.

I mean they add to your array of options over and above what you already have, often in quite meaningful ways, e.g. reflect farms. You don't even need to use them, other than for a one time step for your weapon, but it's easy to do that with the info available online.

[Baxcel]

What is so great about Pyros? Sure you level faster but the crappy Logos Actions kill it for me. You can only get them from the stupid bunny chests, which is random if you get a bunny if there are to many people at the fate, random what chest you get, random what logo gram you get, and THEN it's random what logos action you get. On top of that you can only have 3 logo grams at a time. So any you make to complete your book get tossed out. Then if you still have a bunch of uses left of your logos action and you leave and reenter it's gone. Wither you had 99 casts left or 1. Then some of the stupid actions are so hard to get and combine into to make some really cool super action it gets "to good to use" syndrom. And to top it all off you don't even need logos actions in the zone. Man I HATE Eureka.

Incorrect, you have a 100% chance of getting logograms from Sprites of your level or higher.. You also get upgraded logograms if the sprite mutates or adapts. Every sprite that gives you logos gives 5 of them and on chain of 10 you get 10.. 15 at 15 chain. 20 at 20.. 25 at 25 and 30 at 30.

The only one required for bunnies is offensive logos which i Havnt even gotten but I've already made it to the required 30 for my weapon.. I've out item leveled the armor which is only thing you need all 50 for.. But ill still probably get it since the logos are so easy to earn.

[Burningskull]

Incorrect, you have a 100% chance of getting logograms from Sprites of your level or higher.. You also get upgraded logograms if the sprite mutates or adapts. Every sprite that gives you logos gives 5 of them and on chain of 10 you get 10.. 15 at 15 chain. 20 at 20.. 25 at 25 and 30 at 30.

The only one required for bunnies is offensive logos which i Havnt even gotten but I've already made it to the required 30 for my weapon.. I've out item leveled the armor which is only thing you need all 50 for.. But ill still probably get it since the logos are so easy to earn.

Except when you are level 50 sprites of the same level are hard to find or only appear on certain wind conditions. Add to that the the whole time I was in Eureka Pyros I couldn't get a single party that was grinding on Sprites.

[Baxcel]

Except when you are level 50 sprites of the same level are hard to find or only appear on certain wind conditions. Add to that the the whole time I was in Eureka Pyros I couldn't get a single party that was grinding on Sprites.

Delevel yourself.. Once you have the mount ability unlocked you can't lose it, there's no reason to not delevel with the extreme amount of Exp you get per NM fate.. Also if you look for a map online you can see what weather an location the sprites spawn for your level.. And of course the weather effects the sprites its part of the whole elemental system being thrown out of wack for Eureka or did you skip all the story elements?