YoRHa/NieR alliance raid 5.0

[Alexandre_Noireau]

Hydaelyn is amazing enough... Why is there a need to break it apart both in and outside lore. Aside just serving as glorified marketing that is...?
Don't get me wrong, i know Nier is amazing and we all love it, but Nier is Nier, Final Fantasy XIV should take that XIV a bit more seriously, is after all a main entry. And is starting to feel like it has less and less of "original".

"Until our friend returns."
We might be leaving Eorzea for good, or at least our version of it.... To go and be a Warrior of Darkness somewhere else. A perfect justification to split everything even further, as Hydaelyn is starting to feel less like a universe and more like a metaverse. Are we some forgotten library of Record Keeper?

Sorry, this is just sad.

We could be going to Meracydia, visit Tavnair, explore Nagxia, Dalmasca proper, there is a lot of areas we haven't really explored in Eorzea itself. We could go to the north towards Garlemald, we could go towards sharlayan, there is always the northern isles and aside Meracydia to the southern emisphere (i think it's above the equator?) and the whole new world thats aparently being reached by both eorzean and othardian explorers from two completely diferent coasts.... Hydaelyn looks really cool on it's own. Ivallician architecture was familiar enough for most of us, and it was reinterpreted in a good way which was basically only thanks to it being so closely tied to the main story towards the end... I think it was good but shouldn't be repeated, maybe it should keep as our fill of Final Fantasy "fan servicing" good enough already, lets be XIV.

The Binding Coil, Crystal Tower were both praised as very indepth related to our lore, and the emotional bagage of Bahamut and it's fitting in XIV is just too much. We will probably get anything like that again.
Void Ark tried to be Hydaelyn, and i honestly loved it, all voidsent stuff is amazing really and i feel like we could be exploring all those avenues a lot more. But it also was underwhelming in many aspects, because exploration is a huge part in RPGs. And exploring whole "regions" as small, time limited duties, is bad in general... We need more exploration, more maps.

Hydaelyn is huge, we should be exploring what we have instead of giving our backs to that and fighting things that are so alien... No matter the writting mind you, it's just so unfitting... I'm so torn with this whole expansion.

[EdwinLi]

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I think this Nier Raid may dive into the lore about how FF14 world is connected to other Square Enix game worlds.

Cross-over events show this by how beings from other worlds would end up in FF14 world but why is there even a "door" into FF14 world remains a mystery and why until now we only start accessing this "door" now for us to enter the other alternate worlds that parallel FF14 world beyond the shards.

[Nalfein]

Nier Automata has been on my list for a while... l guess I'd better get on it lol

Whelp guess I need to go play Nier now.

I know nothing about nier, maybe I should change that lol, but the art looks really neat. The scale looks a bit terrifying, in a good way . Does that big thing in the background reference something from Nier?

You guys totally should, the game is awesome. Not sure about how the raid in FFXIV will play out thought.

[Dyvid]

I'm so torn with this whole expansion.

I'm in the same boat on this one and will most likely pass on this 24 man raid because it's just not interesting to me. A Sci-Fi action game doesn't mesh will with a Fantasy RPG game. They could have used Final Fantasy 1, II, IV, V, VII, VIII, IX, or even X that has more than enough raid potential. They could have enough used some of their older games like Secret of Mana, Dragon Quest, Romancing SaGa, or even stretch it to Chrono Trigger. Honestly whats next? Parasite Eve, Front Mission, Rad Racer?

[EusisLandale]

A Sci-Fi action game doesn't mesh will with a Fantasy RPG game.

You say that like this game isn't sci-fi. Alien dragons, alien machines, magitek weapons and machines, genetic experiment monstrosities.

[Daralii]

You say that like this game isn't sci-fi. Alien dragons, alien machines, magitek weapons and machines, genetic experiment monstrosities.

The entire Drakengard series is also part of NieR's canon, and it was lower fantasy than XIV.

[Alexandre_Noireau]

You say that like this game isn't sci-fi. Alien dragons, alien machines, magitek weapons and machines, genetic experiment monstrosities.

The entire Drakengard series is also part of NieR's canon, and it was lower fantasy than XIV.

But they are totally diferent universes. Franchises, let alone worlds and designs.

It doesn't fit.

This is a game, not a tumblr fanfic.

[EusisLandale]

But they are totally diferent universes. Franchises, let alone worlds and designs.

It doesn't fit.

This is a game, not a tumblr fanfic.

I wasn't aware you were the authority on their IPs and how they can or can't work them together.
Your insistence that there's no way for them to fit it is closer to being tumblr fanfic than them doing it, since them doing it wouldn't be a fanfic at all.

[Alexandre_Noireau]

I wasn't aware you were the authority on their IPs and how they can or can't work them together.
Your insistence that there's no way for them to fit it is closer to being tumblr fanfic than them doing it, since them doing it wouldn't be a fanfic at all.

No, but as consumer, informed consumer. I can critizise their decisions, is the least i get for not only paying, but because im also funding their projects, just as i can rant about the goverment expenditures of my taxes.
And yes, you are right, in that case im the one going closer to the fanfic tumblr, you are absolutely right on that sir.

That doesn't make their case any better thought. Implying it is bad. Let's see it this way. I really think Hydaelyn is huge, massive, amazing and full of pending zones, habitats, biodomes, cultures, lore, mythos, etc, all on it's self to even need this kind of crossover fanservicey content. One thing is a tribute, other is to cheaply market on franchises.
Maybe that is my issue, this all feels more like a marketing decision than a pure design one, and in the case of 24 man raids which for many of us are basically the end game, this might not be what many expect.

What do you think, is Hydaelyn worth or no.

[Tharia]

But they are totally diferent universes. Franchises, let alone worlds and designs.

It doesn't fit.

This is a game, not a tumblr fanfic.

Well if you would play World of Final Fantasy. Which is by the way much better than Final Fantasy 15 ( fight me), you would realize that the whole Square Metaverse works the way that technically anything could appear without being a problem.