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    Quote Originally Posted by Dyvid View Post
    A Sci-Fi action game doesn't mesh will with a Fantasy RPG game.
    You say that like this game isn't sci-fi. Alien dragons, alien machines, magitek weapons and machines, genetic experiment monstrosities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EusisLandale View Post
    You say that like this game isn't sci-fi. Alien dragons, alien machines, magitek weapons and machines, genetic experiment monstrosities.
    The entire Drakengard series is also part of NieR's canon, and it was lower fantasy than XIV.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EusisLandale View Post
    You say that like this game isn't sci-fi. Alien dragons, alien machines, magitek weapons and machines, genetic experiment monstrosities.
    Quote Originally Posted by Daralii View Post
    The entire Drakengard series is also part of NieR's canon, and it was lower fantasy than XIV.
    But they are totally diferent universes. Franchises, let alone worlds and designs.

    It doesn't fit.

    This is a game, not a tumblr fanfic.
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    "The will of my friends has etched into my heart, and now ill transform this infinite darkness into eternal light
    Unmatched in heaven and earth, one body and one soul that challenge the gods!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    I'm going to be quite honest...the Void Ark storyline was their "original content" and it was, to me, fairly underwhelming from start to finish. Crystal Tower and Ivalice were both ideas taken from other games and they were great. I'm fine with them NOT doing original content from 24 man raids.
    I actually liked The Void Ark Raid...And CT and Ivalice worked because they all used mythos, lore and characters from past games and altered the story a bit to fit within the world of FFXIV.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alexandre_Noireau View Post
    But they are totally diferent universes. Franchises, let alone worlds and designs.

    It doesn't fit.

    This is a game, not a tumblr fanfic.
    ^^This...so much this...
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  5. #95
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexandre_Noireau View Post
    But they are totally diferent universes. Franchises, let alone worlds and designs.

    It doesn't fit.

    This is a game, not a tumblr fanfic.
    I wasn't aware you were the authority on their IPs and how they can or can't work them together.
    Your insistence that there's no way for them to fit it is closer to being tumblr fanfic than them doing it, since them doing it wouldn't be a fanfic at all.
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  6. #96
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    Quote Originally Posted by EusisLandale View Post
    I wasn't aware you were the authority on their IPs and how they can or can't work them together.
    Your insistence that there's no way for them to fit it is closer to being tumblr fanfic than them doing it, since them doing it wouldn't be a fanfic at all.
    No, but as consumer, informed consumer. I can critizise their decisions, is the least i get for not only paying, but because im also funding their projects, just as i can rant about the goverment expenditures of my taxes.
    And yes, you are right, in that case im the one going closer to the fanfic tumblr, you are absolutely right on that sir.

    That doesn't make their case any better thought. Implying it is bad. Let's see it this way. I really think Hydaelyn is huge, massive, amazing and full of pending zones, habitats, biodomes, cultures, lore, mythos, etc, all on it's self to even need this kind of crossover fanservicey content. One thing is a tribute, other is to cheaply market on franchises.
    Maybe that is my issue, this all feels more like a marketing decision than a pure design one, and in the case of 24 man raids which for many of us are basically the end game, this might not be what many expect.

    What do you think, is Hydaelyn worth or no.
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    "The will of my friends has etched into my heart, and now ill transform this infinite darkness into eternal light
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    Honestly why not do a cross over with kingdom hearts? that game just came out, it has final fantasy in it - I guess? - and it could fit with the "different world" shtick.

    I mean I don't care, I don't like nier and I don't care about this event being made, but considering they keep saying that the story is so important and put a lot of effort into it, it seems weird that we're going full "crossover" all the time and screw the lore.

    Glad I didn't bother with begin with I suppose, but I feel kinda bad for those who actively follow the game's lore and story.
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  8. #98
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexandre_Noireau View Post
    No, but as consumer, informed consumer. I can critizise their decisions, is the least i get for not only paying, but because im also funding their projects, just as i can rant about the goverment expenditures of my taxes.
    And yes, you are right, in that case im the one going closer to the fanfic tumblr, you are absolutely right on that sir.

    That doesn't make their case any better thought. Implying it is bad. Let's see it this way. I really think Hydaelyn is huge, massive, amazing and full of pending zones, habitats, biodomes, cultures, lore, mythos, etc, all on it's self to even need this kind of crossover fanservicey content. One thing is a tribute, other is to cheaply market on franchises.
    Maybe that is my issue, this all feels more like a marketing decision than a pure design one, and in the case of 24 man raids which for many of us are basically the end game, this might not be what many expect.

    What do you think, is Hydaelyn worth or no.
    The thing is, with Omega they've already opened up the thought of threats from worlds other than Hydaelyn itself. And Palace of the Dead set precedence for reworking things from completely outside of Final Fantasy to fit.
    I give them the benefit of the doubt that they can make it work and make sense, and not just be "Here you go, hang out with some androids, tear up some machines. No reason, it's just because its popular!"
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    I feel like the first NieR would have fit better for a cross over, though of course nobody cared about NieR until Automata, personally I found the story and characters pretty underwhelming compared to the first one. I do admit I'm a little bit concerned with how they're going to implement this one, androids and tin can robots aren't really the first thing to come to mind when thinking about FFXIV, but who knows, maybe they'll make it work somehow. Still looking forward to the raids, I'm sure it'll be a crazy ride and at the very least we'll get some cool glams out of it unlike with most of the RtI series, so there's that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexandre_Noireau View Post
    But they are totally diferent universes. Franchises, let alone worlds and designs.

    It doesn't fit.

    This is a game, not a tumblr fanfic.
    Well if you would play World of Final Fantasy. Which is by the way much better than Final Fantasy 15 ( fight me), you would realize that the whole Square Metaverse works the way that technically anything could appear without being a problem.
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