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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Quote Originally Posted by JunseiKei View Post
    Or is an NPC-only job, much like Aymeric, who does both PLD and DRK attacks.
    Really? What DRK attacks does he do? I assumed he'd be very much a paladin, programming-wise - he's even using a recoloured version of the relic sword.


    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    Someone mentioned that Urianger may have just been saying "What would Master Matoya say?", his weird speech pattern confounding people as per usual.
    And as I replied to it there, I think that was a mis-reading on their part. He seems to be speaking directly to her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    Someone mentioned that Urianger may have just been saying "What would Master Matoya say?", his weird speech pattern confounding people as per usual.
    That'd be me, and I think there's a possible additional layer to the dialog that may be proving confusing. He may be talking directly to Matoya even if she isn't present - he's done so at least twice before in story important moments, and there's an even chance he's doing it again in this trailer.

    So it's possible he's directly addressing Matoya while musing to himself about facing their fate, and Y'shtola chooses to respond.

    Also possible that she's taken it up as an identity, or that it's a title, or that this is an alternate universe/timeline version of the characters, wherein the equivalent to our Y'shtola is named Matoya - all of those, plus the "What would Matoya say?" option, feel like they are much more likely to be what is going on than Matoya suddenly deciding to leave her cave and go out and possess the empty shell of her own protege...especially for an individual that -last I checked - does not have the Echo and is not a Resonant.
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    Perhaps Matoya is more like a title rather than a name, so Y'Shtola may at some point have the mantle of Matoya passed down to her. A bit of a stretch, but just a thought.
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    I'shtola Maqa
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    Or perhaps Matoya's spirit takes over Y'shtolas body. Because she does respond to him right after. But who knows.
    He states something like "What say ith master Matoya "We may accept this fate or defy it, but we cannot deny it"
    She responds "Deny, i am not one to run from my troubles" Until our friend returns, i will hold the line"
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    Witch maybe.
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    Tea Mysidia
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    Well whatever the solution might be, I'm sure Matoya will somehow factor into the 5.0 story. I doubt they would namedrop her just to mess with us. As for the job itself...it was teased so much that I really don't think it is Black Mage. It will probably end up being one of the new jobs.
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    Oh, and don't forget an obvious possibility: Matoya was wearing the illusion of Ysh for some reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    Really? What DRK attacks does he do? I assumed he'd be very much a paladin, programming-wise - he's even using a recoloured version of the relic sword.




    And as I replied to it there, I think that was a mis-reading on their part. He seems to be speaking directly to her.
    I was going to say the same thing. I don't recall Aymeric using any DRK attacks, but was also not paying full attention to him during the solo duties that involve him. But I tend to recognize DRK abilities going off even in chaotic 24-man content because I play it frequently.

    As for Y'hstola, I don't see anything other than a dark version of WHM. I know nothing is without meaning when it comes to these things, but SE isn't that subtle when it comes to new job teases. I guess we'll just have to continue to wait and speculate.
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    Looks like a NPC version of Black Mage to me.

    We experience this a lot in the past where NPCs have their own version of Jobs and their abilities.
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    Purrsnikitty Hissingr
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    "What sayest thou, Master Matoya? We may accept this fate, or defy it, but we can not deny it"
    "Deny? I am not one to run from my troubles. Until our friend returns, I will hold the line" - Exact wording

    'What sayest thou, Master Matoya?' translates to 'What say you, Matoya?' So clearly he is talking to Matoya here. Hes pretty much asking what she plans to do with this predicament they are in and in turn she answers, but with Y'shtola's body (for whatever reason).

    Also, for Y'shtola's job, it is clearly a DPS based on what was said when discussing Trusts. She is some variation of black mage, imo. It isn't uncommon for NPCs to be a mix of different jobs in this game, so I do expect she will have some abilities that we wont.
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