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    Quote Originally Posted by Nedkel View Post
    Sry its in 480p sincei used free video editor

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMxd...ature=youtu.be

    I will probably take away that macro on circle of scorn and eclipse, since there is quite of difference between those two, but with spirits within and fast blade i cant notice any.
    There are a few reasons I dislike the kind of macro that you made.

    1st, as Whiskey mentioned you lost control of your Spirits Within oGCD. Your macro will force spirits within on press of the button, but in a paladin opener you generally want to align your fight or flight buff with spirits within, and Fight or flight isn't pushed until just before your first goring blade.

    2nd, your video shows clipping in both cases. Why? Your GCD was up and you used an oGCD. That is clipping, the video shows that you clipped. If you want to show that it doesn't show clipping you need to do a rotation where your GCD is on cooldown, spirits within macro is used, and the GCD is used without sitting on cooldown.

    The second reason also has a control aspect. If I am close to using Fast Blade with that macro, and spirits within in coming off cooldown, then the game will prioritize Spirits within, and push back fast blade. I might think to myself, well I'll just switch the order of the two. This doesn't work. If I press that macro before my GCD is up to use fast blade as my GCD comes up the macro will only see Spirits within as being usable and force the clip again.
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    Last edited by Chrono_Rising; 01-31-2019 at 12:30 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrono_Rising View Post
    There are a few reasons I dislike the kind of macro that you made.

    1st, as Whiskey mentioned you lost control of your Spirits Within oGCD. Your macro will force spirits within on press of the button, but in a paladin opener you generally want to align your fight or flight buff with spirits within, and Fight or flight isn't pushed until just before your first goring blade.

    2nd, your video shows clipping in both cases. Why? Your GCD was up and you used an oGCD. That is clipping, the video shows that you clipped. If you want to show that it doesn't show clipping you need to do a rotation where your GCD is on cooldown, spirits within macro is used, and the GCD is used without sitting on cooldown.

    The second reason also has a control aspect. If I am close to using Fast Blade with that macro, and spirits within in coming off cooldown, then the game will prioritize Spirits within, and push back fast blade. I might think to myself, well I'll just switch the order of the two. This doesn't work. If I press that macro before my GCD is up to use fast blade as my GCD comes up the macro will only see Spirits within as being usable and force the clip again.
    That gave me a thought.
    I think i will move SW to the other GCD (shield lob probably) so i will not waste time to cast it before starting my GCD, and i wont clip it with anything i use in the rotation, thanks.
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    Last edited by Nedkel; 01-31-2019 at 01:04 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nedkel View Post
    That gave me a thought.
    I will move SW to the other GCD (riot blade probably) so i will not waste time to cast it before starting my GCD, thanks.
    Read the rest of the post highlighted below. You aren't solving the problem, only shifting it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chrono_Rising View Post

    The second reason also has a control aspect. If I am close to using Fast Blade with that macro, and spirits within in coming off cooldown, then the game will prioritize Spirits within, and push back fast blade. I might think to myself, well I'll just switch the order of the two. This doesn't work. If I press that macro before my GCD is up to use fast blade as my GCD comes up the macro will only see Spirits within as being usable and force the clip again.
    There is nothing special about the GCD being fast blade. You haven't solve the problem, only shifted it to a different GCD.

    I see you changed your post to say shield lob, this has less issues until you lag for a second and shield lob goes off instead of Spirits within, which potentially resets your combo.
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    Last edited by Chrono_Rising; 01-31-2019 at 01:07 PM.