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  1. #21
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    Dragon_punch's Avatar
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    Akuma Matada
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    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    Bristle is bad because at 50% increase, you might as well just cast two spells instead of bristle. It's more damage without bristle.
    Won't argue Bristle can be underwhelming on most spells current potency. Though on stuff like Final Sting which has a 1500 potency its pretty crazy. I'd trade the cast time for maybe a short cd to make it flow better with the class. In the Masked Carnivale its very handy to get past lot of the fights before they get overwhelming. Stacking the other buffs I've seen numbers in the 30k+ range which will one shot several bosses.

    As others have said for feedback we definitely need more combos and spells that work together.
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  2. #22
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    KageTokage's Avatar
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    Alijana Tumet
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 100
    They seriously need to just let you learn skills while dead in instances because the current design discourages people from doing all BLU groups for learning when anyone who dies is going to just be left in the lurch.
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  3. #23
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    Carlo Vinne
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    Faerie
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Dragon_punch View Post
    Won't argue Bristle can be underwhelming on most spells current potency. Though on stuff like Final Sting which has a 1500 potency its pretty crazy. I'd trade the cast time for maybe a short cd to make it flow better with the class. In the Masked Carnivale its very handy to get past lot of the fights before they get overwhelming. Stacking the other buffs I've seen numbers in the 30k+ range which will one shot several bosses.

    As others have said for feedback we definitely need more combos and spells that work together.
    The problem is simple, 150% power for two casts doesn't match up to casting something twice.
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  4. #24
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    Burningskull's Avatar
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    Markov Dracul
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Ekimmak View Post
    The problem is simple, 150% power for two casts doesn't match up to casting something twice.
    I think Bristle is not supposed to be used per spell but more like on the combo spells. Like Petrification > Bristle > Drill Cannon. Only problem is spell combos on Blue is goverened by debuffs which only trash mobs are not immune to. Also Bristle doesn't work on Primal spells which is dissapointing. As is I only use Bristle on Song of Torment.
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  5. #25
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    Celie Lothaire
    World
    Maduin
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by RitsukoSonoda View Post
    Initially I felt most of the BLU damaging spells were lackluster while leveling. However getting some decent gear at lv 50 and started doing duties to get more pages filled I started seeing things like combo'd dragon voice reaching around 5K which is a bit nuts for an AoE at 50 if I remember what numbers looked like at that level on other jobs. That lackluster feeling while leveling may just be due to 1000 needles.
    For reference, Bard's Heavy Shot at 50 ( a 150 potency weaponskill) does around 450ish, which is in line with the spammable spells BLU has when they aren't being buffed by something. Add synergies with Moon Flute, Off-guard, etc., and even the spammable stuff outclasses what a number of other jobs are capable of at 50...

    But yeah, the BIG culprit for it feeling weak before that point is they can't compete with 1k needles until you're up near/at 50 PLUS have access to more of the synergistic abilities (some of which are only accessible at 50, such as Moon Flute).
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  6. #26
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    RitsukoSonoda's Avatar
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    Character
    Ritsuko Sonoda
    World
    Ultros
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 90
    Well the elemental wheel not so much in resistances with the monsters but more of usage of spells in a combo similar to what we did with ninjutsu at one point in FFXI rotating the elemental damage ones in a specific order for what was basically a potency increase. We would be assigning the BLU spells an element rather than the monsters themselves. This would allow swapping of spells in rotations on the fly by allowing multiple choices at each step. Dark and light would be the odd ones in it and probably just be healing skills, buffs, debuffs and 1 off attacks with high base potency and possibly a long cooldown.
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  7. #27
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    Inglis Eucus
    World
    Cuchulainn
    Main Class
    Reaper Lv 100
    At this point Blu is way to weak. When your level 50 with ilvl of 128 and takes more than 5 hits to kill lvl 28 mob something is wrong. Blu to me is the weakest job out there. To many skill never work or has way to low of a chance to hit. Not job I will ever play unless there is major changes to it.
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  8. #28
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    Character
    Y'dyalani Rhus
    World
    Louisoix
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 90
    Feels like they "erred" on the side of over cautious with potency for Blue Mage. I'm level 50 and was doing tam tara normal for mind break (or whatever its called) and even the normal trash was still taking about 2 AOE or 3 water cannons to kill. That seems a lot for an unsynced lvl 50 considering they are only level 16.
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  9. #29
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    KageTokage's Avatar
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    Alijana Tumet
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 100
    I don't find BLU to be that much weaker then standard 50 jobs once you've gotten their full DPS kit, and when it comes bosses any shortcomings in sustained DPS are likely made up for by the obscene amount of low HP burst they can dish out with Final Sting (Which is akin to getting an extra melee LB 2 off if it crits).
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  10. #30
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    Metalwrath's Avatar
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    Rhulk Roegan
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    Raiden
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 90
    Shougon i was thinking of very small potency bonus with an instant cast proc.If that sounds too strong you could make it % based chance.Bristle should be 30 sec cd and and instant cast ocd.
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