First Time Here

[Syrus718]

How do you know this to be the case, though? Can you read the minds of everyone you’ve partied with? People can find someone obnoxious and not say anything.



Iscah is one of the more patient posters here. Be they’re now an “elitist” because, what? They said something you don’t agree with?


On first timers: they aren’t a “public enemy”, but they do have no business being in an EX farm party with no clear. Does that give people the right to be jerks? No. But a newcomer sneaking into a farm or a weekly 2-chest party is being incredibly inconsiderate.

As I stated usually the response is Same Here Followed By Laughter... "Its Been My First Time For The Past 84 Runs" someone makes a Mistake on a mechanic the first time here jokes start. Especially when youv'e been in said farm party for over 20 runs already as I said No one Cares About 1st timers in all of these situations except that one person who decides to go out their way to make a first timer feel bad for being new

[HyoMinPark]

As I stated usually the response is Same Here Followed By Laughter... "Its Been My First Time For The Past 84 Runs" someone makes a Mistake on a mechanic the first time here jokes start. Especially when youv'e been in said farm party for over 20 runs already

So which was it? You made a joke as you queued in? Or you made a joke as soon as someone fudged up a mechanic and caused a wipe? Or you made a joke about being new to a farm group after doing ~20 runs with them?

as I said No one Cares About 1st timers in all of these situations except that one person who decides to go out their way to make a first timer feel bad for being new

People generally don’t like first timers sneaking into farm groups for Extremes or weekly clear groups for Savage. More often than not, they go out of their way to hope people don’t notice they’re new, and they typically don’t have the experience they claim they’ve had (e.g., “I’ve been to Enrage” but hasn’t actually been there). People are looking for efficient clears, not to help someone clear. That’s what clear parties are for.

First timers shouldn’t feel bad for being new. But they should feel bad for sneaking into FARM groups and expecting the group to just smile and take them with no questions asked, or sneaking into a party for something that they have absolutely no business being in (like inexperienced players sneaking into Savage parties because they “done normal mode and Savage probably isn’t much different”—yes, I did have someone say this to me once).

I give new players 3 pulls before I leave, and really, that goes for farm groups in general. If it takes more than 3 pulls to clear, that’s not a farm.

[Syrus718]

So which was it? You made a joke as you queued in? Or you made a joke as soon as someone fudged up a mechanic and caused a wipe? Or you made a joke about being new to a farm group after doing ~20 runs with them?



People generally don’t like first timers sneaking into farm groups for Extremes or weekly clear groups for Savage. More often than not, they go out of their way to hope people don’t notice they’re new, and they typically don’t have the experience they claim they’ve had (e.g., “I’ve been to Enrage” but hasn’t actually been there). People are looking for efficient clears, not to help someone clear. That’s what clear parties are for.

First timers shouldn’t feel bad for being new. But they should feel bad for sneaking into FARM groups and expecting the group to just smile and take them with no questions asked, or sneaking into a party for something that they have absolutely no business being in (like inexperienced players sneaking into Savage parties because they “done normal mode and Savage probably isn’t much different”—yes, I did have someone say this to me once).

I give new players 3 pulls before I leave, and really, that goes for farm groups in general. If it takes more than 3 pulls to clear, that’s not a farm.

I'll Give Any farm party 2 pulls but that's not the point. The focus has now become completely about I joke I said was made. And now what seems to be everyone thinks I'm complaining about the first time here joke. Completely missing everything else. Not Complaining about being a first time because Ive Clear EVERYTHING I care about with my FC Way before joking a farm the topic isnt about me but it's been made about me when my focus was the treatment of new players. To answer your question. After already being in the duty. After already clearing it and after being in a farm for 20 plus no matter what people are being unfare to new players.... Remember The Joke Came Long After Noticing this

[SturmChurro]

I'll Give Any farm party 2 pulls but that's not the point. The focus has now become completely about I joke I said was made. And now what seems to be everyone thinks I'm complaining about the first time here joke. Completely missing everything else. Not Complaining about being a first time because Ive Clear EVERYTHING I care about with my FC Way before joking a farm the topic isnt about me but it's been made about me when my focus was the treatment of new players. To answer your question. After already being in the duty. After already clearing it and after being in a farm for 20 plus no matter what people are being unfare to new players.... Remember The Joke Came Long After Noticing this

Wow! You've cleared everything, and you are a bro to new players too?! Such a good guy.

[Syrus718]

Wow! You've cleared everything, and you are a bro to new players too?! Such a good guy.

Everything I Care About and Your Finally The First PersonTo Notice on This Thread Thanks. Now If We Can Get others to Help New Players Out.

[HyoMinPark]

Everything I Care About and Your Finally The First PersonTo Notice on This Thread Thanks. Now If We Can Get others to Help New Players Out.

I’m all for helping new players out........
........in the applicable situations.
Not in a farm party.
There is a time and a place.

[Syrus718]

I’m all for helping new players out........
........in the applicable situations.
Not in a farm party.
There is a time and a place.

I Understand you but there were no new players Just The thought of playing with one is starting to make a growing number of people mad is all I'm saying which is my point

[SturmChurro]

Everything I Care About and Your Finally The First PersonTo Notice on This Thread Thanks. Now If We Can Get others to Help New Players Out.

I wish I was more like you.

[HyoMinPark]

I'll Give Any farm party 2 pulls but that's not the point. The focus has now become completely about I joke I said was made. And now what seems to be everyone thinks I'm complaining about the first time here joke. Completely missing everything else. Not Complaining about being a first time because Ive Clear EVERYTHING I care about with my FC Way before joking a farm the topic isnt about me but it's been made about me when my focus was the treatment of new players. To answer your question. After already being in the duty. After already clearing it and after being in a farm for 20 plus no matter what people are being unfare to new players.... Remember The Joke Came Long After Noticing this

Your opening post doesn’t mention anything about having been in the party for 20 runs. You didn’t add that until your response to me. Your OP just says you queued into the instance and said “first time here”. Perhaps write clearer and include all details from the start in the future.

In response to you having cleared everything—strangers don’t know this at first glance, nor can you expect them to unless you have obvious proof of it (which also brings us back to you wanting to link all your different weapons... if you believed everyone to know you were joking, why link them all?). But I don’t think anyone here was saying that you were actually a first timer—just that your joke was poor.

[Ilan]

I'll Give Any farm party 2 pulls but that's not the point. The focus has now become completely about I joke I said was made. And now what seems to be everyone thinks I'm complaining about the first time here joke. Completely missing everything else. Not Complaining about being a first time because Ive Clear EVERYTHING I care about with my FC Way before joking a farm the topic isnt about me but it's been made about me when my focus was the treatment of new players. To answer your question. After already being in the duty. After already clearing it and after being in a farm for 20 plus no matter what people are being unfare to new players.... Remember The Joke Came Long After Noticing this

There are always people that are not nice to new players, in every game, but these players are not that often to find here in this game as you might think. Most people are completly relaxed when it comes to new players as long as they don't sneak into ex or savage farm parties, because this are parties to farm and not help parties. I wouldn't be amused either if someone would sneak into a farm partie for a newer ex primal with mechanics that you can't skip that easy.