[Spoilers] The Patch 4.5 Lore Discussion Thread!

[Mieck]

So, there's a few questions that can be raised around the Varis / Alliance leaders in a Garlean tent scene. The seats bear the Garlean flag embossed in the backs and ivory standards by the entrance.



Is it the prelude to the battle? Invitation extended? These are my terms of your surrender, reject them and we will crush you sort of thing?
Have the alliance faught the Empire to a standstill?


I offer no side here, but these are the things I thought about during that sequence.


Edit: also, assuming they haven't done a VA change on Varis (and he does speak during 3.0 and 4.4, the same guy, at least in Eglish), the voice giving the

My goal is this: to return the world to the way it once was, the way it was always meant to be.
In doing so, mankind will be made whole once more.
No longer shall we suffer from the dissension born of our differences.

speach is close, but not as gravelly as he is in 3.0 and 4.4?

Particularly when compared to 4.4 - "You fiends are overly fond of your own voices" - there almost an entire quarry in the delivery of that line. What's the reading from the other languages? Varis or not Varis?

[ObsidianFire]

Zodiark appears- check
Zodiark will likely reveal that mama crystal isnt all she seems- check

Where did you see Zodiark in the trailer? The last time we saw him was in an Echo vision at the end of 2.0.

[Anonymoose]

Further Musing
Heh. The floor glyph has 14 circles along the outside and one is more elaborate than the rest. "Solus" is definitely referring to travel to another shard, but it sounds more like he plans on going. However, if he is the anchor and something is able to call our souls, maybe there's a bridge going on? Idk, something's up. Back to thinking.

[Guiballad]

Oh i know what that glyph is...



IT'S A STATION OF AWAKENING Y'ALL. We about to become keyblade wielders xD

Seriously tho the thing in this trailer that kinda has me weirded out is the possibility we are making some sort of alliance with Solus? Could always be misdirection (and god are the trailer people good with this) but still. Why would we ally with SOLUS of all Ascians. Even though i'm 100% in the "Elidibus is a snake" boat he seemed like a much more likely alliance to happen.

Or maybe we kill the emissary and screw everything so bad Solus HAS to work with us for at least 5 minutes before back-stabbing us as per Ascian MO.

[Ceasaria]

In French, the voice is all again from Zenos as it was the case with the mysterious voice from 4.4 and Shadowbringers trailer. (From what I read for the other among the threads, could it be possible it's different for each language ?)
There is Varis too, Alisaie, and in the last second of the trailer, where the WoL is on the pentacle, the voice is from someone else (Solus ? don't remember his voice, Zodiark ?)
Not too much spoilers, otherwise, it's good.

[Xie_Belvoule]

Sorry to rain on your parade, but the Resonant was Zenos' personal project and most likely not supported by any other, seeing how Aulus goes on about Zenos being the only one believing in his research.

Varis clearly knew about the resonance because Alus presented it to the imperial court. Varis probably considered it for a time but he eventually rejected it as none-viable. Instead opting to listen to elidibus and his plan to fuse the shards with the source leading to the same result of bridging the gap and creating a world where everyone is of "one mind" as Elidibus put it.

Where did you see Zodiark in the trailer? The last time we saw him was in an Echo vision at the end of 2.0.

As for seeing Zodiark, I assume the scene with the WoL on the strange platform in the aether sea is going to pan around to revel a giant dark crystal.

[Theodric]

If it is Varis that is speaking, there's the possibility that he's giving lip service to the Ascians due to knowing that he's being observed by forces more loyal to Solus than Varis himself. Perhaps those two guards with the 'Livia' masks?

[DarthSanguine]

Where did you see Zodiark in the trailer? The last time we saw him was in an Echo vision at the end of 2.0.

We've never seen Zodiark in FFXIV. The purple crystal was Bahamut's core, not Zodiark. That Necron looking statue we see in a scene with all the Ascians in 2.x is most likely a depiction of Zodiark - though we can't be certain that's what he actually looks like.

[Anonymoose]

We've never seen Zodiark in FFXIV. The purple crystal was Bahamut's core, not Zodiark.

Do you have the first artbook? It implies otherwise.

[ChaoticCrimson]

Was that Yamata-no-Orochi fighting alongsode Seiryu? I'm not sure, granted it was hard to tell how many snake heads were on that thing. It'd be a neat mythological reference if it is, though.