A question for the BLU peeps

[Beckett]

the only time BLU has ever been gated by level is in FFXI.

Even though you've been going back and forth with MrKimper for days, I feel like you just glossed over the most important part right away. One of the only things we know about FFXIV's Blue Mage is that it's far more similar to XI's BLU than any other game. XI is the only game besides XIV to give Blue Mages over 30 blue magic spells, but only allow them access a few at a time.

Given how hard they seem to aping XI's style of BLU, it's not at all unreasonable to assume that blue magic will be level restricted in this game as well. If the job comes out and it turns out a level 1 BLU can go into Akh Afah Ampitheatre, and learn Shiva's bow ability and is able to use it at level 1, I'll be eating crow, but I seriously doubt that's going to be the case.

[kikix12]

Given how hard they seem to aping XI's style of BLU, it's not at all unreasonable to assume that blue magic will be level restricted in this game as well. If the job comes out and it turns out a level 1 BLU can go into Akh Afah Ampitheatre, and learn Shiva's bow ability and is able to use it at level 1, I'll be eating crow, but I seriously doubt that's going to be the case.

Blue Mage won't be able to enter instances of a higher level than they are, no different to other classes. But that does not mean that skills will be gated behind levels. The question is whether they will be able to learn them from the mobs that they have access to.

That being said...does it really matter?! It's not even relevant to the topic. There are other threads about Blue Mage that talk about its mechanics.

[Beckett]

Blue Mage won't be able to enter instances of a higher level than they are, no different to other classes.

Oh fair enough. I was thinking Undersized parties could get a lowbie in with high levels, but I forgot they've at least got to meant the minimum level requirement to get in. Still, I have a tough time believing level 1 BLUs will be able to learn and equip spells in the open world from level 50 monsters, even if they get help from friends.

[JohnSpawnVFX]

Blue Mage won't be able to enter instances of a higher level than they are, no different to other classes. But that does not mean that skills will be gated behind levels. The question is whether they will be able to learn them from the mobs that they have access to.

That being said...does it really matter?! It's not even relevant to the topic. There are other threads about Blue Mage that talk about its mechanics.

You can go unsynced with friends into a lvl 70 duty as a lvl 1 of any class.

[BillyKaplan]

You can go unsynced with friends into a lvl 70 duty as a lvl 1 of any class.

So much for that solo experience... but that was part of the joke of this iteration of BLU from the get-go, that contradiction.

[Reynhart]

Given how hard they seem to aping XI's style of BLU, it's not at all unreasonable to assume that blue magic will be level restricted in this game as well.

Considering that the spellbook we saw makes no mention of any level, and that they stated that different level of the same monster can teach the same spell, there's absolutely nothing to base this assumpton on. And it does not change the fact that this :

This doesn't really make sense because, BLU has always been gated from learning certain spells based off of what level it is

is just plain wrong. To which I replied :

No, the only time BLU has ever been gated by level is in FFXI.

Still, I have a tough time believing level 1 BLUs will be able to learn and equip spells in the open world from level 50 monsters, even if they get help from friends.

What I see them do, which would actually fit BLU very well, is having fixed MP cost for each spell. So, you might be able to learn them, but you may have a hard time casting the really powerful ones right away. And it would be a nice nod to what JohnSpawnVFX mentionned, that you could have some kind of "soft cap", that you can try to bypass. Who knows, maybe BLU will make good use of Piety materia to be able to cast some spells earlier that usual.

[Beckett]

Considering that the spellbook we saw makes no mention of any level

Spellbook..? just a moment while I look that up... Oh hey, look at that!

It is a bit interesting that the only tooltip we can see says that the spell being highlighted is learned in Halatali. Most of the other spells we've seen being learned appear to be from instances as well. I think the image/video we saw of Bad Breath being learned was in the open world though. You're definitely right that there's no levels visible in that spellbook screenshot, though it's possible that the open world spells would show level requirements while spells you can only get from instances don't need to, since you can't get in until the proper level anyway. That's a pretty thin argument though, and the simplest explanation is that you're correct and blue magic won't have level restrictions.