[Request]: Foliage Reaction

[Sylve]

As someone who has played Black Desert myself and seen the extent of possibilities of graphical features in MMO, it's difficult for me to accept the excuses of server or system limitation especially from a well known publisher as SE.

Black Desert? Oh, you mean the game that has a pop-in distance of like 5 feet right?

Yeah BDO looks pretty great, but horrendous pop-in is just one of the graphical shortcuts they took to make it look that good.
BDO also runs like complete garbage most of the time.

My point is that for everything that you want to make look better, something else has to suffer. The gameworld has a literal 'budget'. BDO chose to only render things within 5 feet of you, XIV chooses other things. Aesthetic is just as visually impactful as photorealistic landscapes.

[Deithwen]

Black Desert? Oh, you mean the game that has a pop-in distance of like 5 feet right?

Yeah BDO looks pretty great, but horrendous pop-in is just one of the graphical shortcuts they took to make it look that good.
BDO also runs like complete garbage most of the time.

My point is that for everything that you want to make look better, something else has to suffer. The gameworld has a literal 'budget'. BDO chose to only render things within 5 feet of you, XIV chooses other things. Aesthetic is just as visually impactful as photorealistic landscapes.

And yet nothing prevents the dev team to increase the quality further. The textures we have now are not by 2018 standards, even for a MMO. AA is lacking too, no physical interaction with the world etc.
Many MMOs other than BDO look better on those parts. Even F2P ones.

There is no justification for lacking those basic features in a 2018 AAA MMO made by one of the biggest gaming company in the world.

And for your information, say we get increased textures quality, nothing has to be trade for this to work, the only thing needed is enough vram on the client side, and that's it. There is no direct perfomance impact on this.

[Enkidoh]

And yet nothing prevents the dev team to increase the quality further. The textures we have now are not by 2018 standards, even for a MMO. AA is lacking too, no physical interaction with the world etc.
Many MMOs other than BDO look better on those parts. Even F2P ones.

There is no justification for lacking those basic features in a 2018 AAA MMO made by one of the biggest gaming company in the world.

And for your information, say we get increased textures quality, nothing has to be trade for this to work, the only thing needed is enough vram on the client side, and that's it. There is no direct perfomance impact on this.

Of course it's graphics are not up to 2018 standards, it wasn't made in 2018 (ARR's development started in early 2011, replacing 1.0 which first started development around 2006! For a comparison, SE's earlier FF MMORPG, FFXI, was launched in 2002 and it's still running in Direct X 8 with the same PS2-era engine it's always had!).

You're not going to see SE spend a fortune completely overhauling the engine just to chuck in a few fancy graphic gimmicks simply to appease the wishes of a few players. SE are far more likely to simply create a whole new MMORPG with 'today's tech' and leave FFXIV with it's current engine alone, that's just being realistic.

[Ilenya]

And yet nothing prevents the dev team to increase the quality further. The textures we have now are not by 2018 standards, even for a MMO. AA is lacking too, no physical interaction with the world etc.
Many MMOs other than BDO look better on those parts. Even F2P ones.

There is no justification for lacking those basic features in a 2018 AAA MMO made by one of the biggest gaming company in the world.

And for your information, say we get increased textures quality, nothing has to be trade for this to work, the only thing needed is enough vram on the client side, and that's it. There is no direct perfomance impact on this.

I...I feel like you are forgetting something. Something may be preventing the Dev team from doing it...It's called Square Enix.

[Vahlnir]

I...I feel like you are forgetting something. Something may be preventing the Dev team from doing it...It's called Square Enix.

Pretty much. Yoshi P and the devs have bosses too, and they no doubt control where and how the money is spent.

[Sylve]

And yet nothing prevents the dev team to increase the quality further. The textures we have now are not by 2018 standards, even for a MMO. AA is lacking too, no physical interaction with the world etc.
Many MMOs other than BDO look better on those parts. Even F2P ones.

There is no justification for lacking those basic features in a 2018 AAA MMO made by one of the biggest gaming company in the world.

And for your information, say we get increased textures quality, nothing has to be trade for this to work, the only thing needed is enough vram on the client side, and that's it. There is no direct perfomance impact on this.

Of course the textures we have now aren't up to "2018 standard" whatever the hell that is. They were created with the freaking PS3 in mind.
Textures are created to look good at certain distances. If I jam my face into a wall, of course im gonna see some horrible pixilation, but the who does that? It's like walking up to a painting of a cityscape and pressing your nose into the canvas and complaining that the people are just dots and a line.
I'd much rather have a game that looks "good" and plays great than a game that looks amazing but plays like a slideshow, aka BDO.