FFXIV FOR THE NINTENDO SWITCH

[Lastelli]

Not necessarily, all they would have to do is ask SE to heavily censor and make a special version for Switch users that's localized and edited enough where all of that is covered with fluffy sprinkles and cotton candy nonsense. And we all know that Nintendo would ask that to be done too. I think you underestimate Nintendo's persistence to have their demands met and SE's love of extra income from other companies as the bait and motivation to allow it.

Well, Nintendo changed a lot in the last few years. We now have brands like bayonetta, and some recent games (arms and even botw) are clearly trying to cater to a more adult and /or "naughty" audience.

That's not the problem though, since ffxiv has very low chances of being ported to the switch in the first place for obvious technical reasons.

One thing to consider is that if a switch version is released, it needs to be playable in both docked and portable mode. I don't think that some content in the game (like eureka and 24-man raids) can run on the switch in portable mode, not even if everything is severely downgraded until it looks like a ps1 game. We don't even know if the luminous engine is compatible with the console.

Another important thing: if ffxiv is released on the switch, it means that future expansions should be developed for the switch too. This means ZERO room for technical improvement for the next 4 years at the very least.

I feel like people wishing for a switch port don't really care about the game and only care about the console.

[TheVigilant]

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I agree with much of what you said, Nintendo owns Fatal Frame as an IP from Koei Tecmo and it's filled with ghosts, girls in bikini, stories of torture, homicide and rituals, and then the console now has Dark Souls, promoted by Nintendo with an Amiibo and whatnot, and other examples like Bayonetta etc. so I can't see where someone who tries to reason with that are coming from other than not being up to date with the subject.

It's true that there would be more room for tech specs improvement in the game, but it may not be where the game is headed, since Yoshi in this recent interview seemed more interested in other aspects of visual improvement rather than tech specs:



But then again, even if they tried to push forward in the tech specs, they would risk losing the players who yet remain on the PS4 for possibly a long while after the next generation consoles release. And yet again, Yoshi keeps saying that they want the game to be playing through as many platforms as possible, and the Switch has a considerable amount of players I'm guessing SE may want to include in their player base. So from what I see, they would either try to make it playable on every console including the Switch to keep the low, average and the high tech spec hardware players or just abandon the people who could not afford to play FFXIV due to the decision to keep the game for a higher spec hardware player base. From Yoshi's words, that they want to keep it on as many platforms as possible, I understand that Yoshi is more interested in the availability rather than the increase in graphical fidelity.

As for how you feel regarding people who want the game to be on the Switch being people who don't care about the game and just care about the console, I don't agree with it, simply because I myself, may have a different perspective as to what may be beneficial to it in the long run and if Yoshi and his team see that it is the right thing to do due to the business and marketing strategies they wish to make for the sake of the game, even if it means gaining more audience through sacrificing a matter for another, I support. Not everyone is a crazed Nintendo fanatic simply because he/she wants the game on the platform, it may just be that they simply don't agree with you,

[LalaRu]

... from what I see, they would either try to make it playable on every console including the Switch to keep the low, average and the high tech spec hardware players or just abandon the people who could not afford to play FFXIV due to the decision to keep the game for a higher spec hardware ...

I think XIV 1.0 was a lesson in that sense: high spec = commercial failure.

[Enla]

I think XIV 1.0 was a lesson in that sense: high spec = commercial failure.

But conversely, this MMO is a lesson in that keeping your game chained down by outdated (or with the inevitability of becoming outdated) hardware isn't ideal either. It wasn't just because of a lack of graphical fidelity that the team constantly slagged the PS3 port. It fundamentally restricted a lot of what they could do in terms of improvements for the game at large because the PS3 could barely run the game once it hit Heavensward.

[LalaRu]

But conversely, this MMO is a lesson in that keeping your game chained down by outdated (or with the inevitability of becoming outdated) hardware isn't ideal either...

You're right. I think the "sweet spot" is between low and high specs. Not too low for the graphic appeal, and not too high to avoid lose customers without high-end machines.

[Lastelli]

So from what I see, they would either try to make it playable on every console including the Switch to keep the low, average and the high tech spec hardware players or just abandon the people who could not afford to play FFXIV due to the decision to keep the game for a higher spec hardware player base. From Yoshi's words, that they want to keep it on as many platforms as possible, I understand that Yoshi is more interested in the availability rather than the increase in graphical fidelity.

There were 85 mlns of ps3 around and many people were still playing on the ps3 when they decided to cut the support for the platform because it was keeping the game back (and the switch is not much more powerful than the ps3). Clearly, all publishers would like to release their games for as many platforms as possible...but there's a problem.
If a publisher decides to release a game for hw with very different capabilities, the game will be developed with the lowest common denominator in mind. This not only means worse graphics, it also means less technically demanding content (say goodbye to large scale content, bigger and more alive areas, better AI, for instance). And here's the problem: there's no guarantee that the players on the more powerful platform will be ok with this. Think about the whole diablo mobile fiasco. Sometimes devs just need to choose one target hardware and do the best they can withing the boundaries of that hardware. If a game or a franchise is historically linked to a platform and its playerbase is on a specific platform, trying to go after a new platform and a new target is extremely risky whenever the game will need to be adjusted for the new hw. In ffxiv case, there's a lot that can be improved and is already below modern standards, things that the playerbase has been asking for some time now, and many times the devs replied with "ps3 limitations" or "server limitations". You can be sure that many players will be pretty upset if the devs create another constraint for themselves by making a switch version.

You're right. I think the "sweet spot" is between low and high specs. Not too low for the graphic appeal, and not too high to avoid lose customers without high-end machines.

Correct, and this is true for any game. Unfortunately, "switch level" is just too low for this game.
There are games that are perfectly fine for the switch, but ffxiv is not one of those games and for its own good I hope that the only reason why yoshida mentioned the possibility of a switch port was because he just didn't want to say "no way" and annoy someone. After all yoshida says a lot of things that ultimately amount to nothing.

[JunseiKei]

Not necessarily, all they would have to do is ask SE to heavily censor and make a special version for Switch users that's localized and edited enough where all of that is covered with fluffy sprinkles and cotton candy nonsense. And we all know that Nintendo would ask that to be done too. I think you underestimate Nintendo's persistence to have their demands met and SE's love of extra income from other companies as the bait and motivation to allow it.

That makes no sense for making a censored version just for the Switch. A port is not quite the same as what China and Korea have, which are heavily censored.

Well, Nintendo changed a lot in the last few years. We now have brands like bayonetta, and some recent games (arms and even botw) are clearly trying to cater to a more adult and /or "naughty" audience.

Nintendo has a few mature rated games on its older consoles. Seriously, have you guys forgotten about Resident Evil 4, Killer 7, Conker's Bad Fur Day, Eternal Darkness, Wolfenstein II, Perfect Dark? Heck, Mortal Kombat, Fallout and Doom were on the SNES. There's probably a few games on the NES that would have been rated mature, but the ESRB did not exist then (thanks Mortal Kombat). Nintendo is not just suddenly catering to the more mature audience. It's always been there, but it's not its most advertised audience.

That's not the problem though, since ffxiv has very low chances of being ported to the switch in the first place for obvious technical reasons.

Agreed. I don't see FFXIV coming to the Switch at all.

[Sigma-Astra]

Well, Nintendo changed a lot in the last few years. We now have brands like bayonetta, and some recent games (arms and even botw) are clearly trying to cater to a more adult and /or "naughty" audience.

Ah, you're right. I almost forgot about Bayonetta and whatnot. Good call.

I feel like people wishing for a switch port don't really care about the game and only care about the console.

Yea, that's how I feel too, so I can understand you there.

And I'm sorry that you don't always have things the way you want them to be in life and that you're not the center of the world.

Actually, that comment would be more fitting for you since you keep rehashing the same, tired, old line that the Switch would be possible simply because Yoshi was in talks about doing it and running that as a 100% certainty when it's not while ignoring mostly what everyone else has been saying and that it just wouldn't technically be there as the main reasoning among other estimates.

As much as you see your side as being logical, I see mine as being logical too.

You're not being logical, you're just being hopeful and wishful thinking because you want something that has been proven to not technically work, and you don't want to hear that from others. You're also using your opinion as an excuse to be extremely rude and condescending towards someone else that doesn't share the same opinion as you when I haven't done either of those things to you in response so far. The world doesn't revolve around what you want on the forums either, maybe you're the one who needs to learn that life lesson and not respond poorly when someone tells you "no."