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  1. #381
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    As long as Switch port doesn't affect the game (as example, introducing the well know "limitations" we suffered for keeping up the PS3 in line), I've nothing against a swich port and I think we can play there 30fps, because all assets will be tuned down for its hardware.

    I did recently read an interview to Yoshida where he made clear that "tuning up" the graphics will be a huge cost because it have to rework everything graphic, while tuning down is much more simple and that was one of the things that helped made ARR get to life. So if a switch version comes up, I expect a tuned down graphic in order to make the game play smooth 30fps in all situations, without introduce limitations.

    Maybe we will likely can see XIV into a "switch 2" console, given the time it passed from switch release.
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    I would leave it to the most knowledgeable of the situation, namely Yoshi.
    If he has expressed his interest, then if all things go well with Nintendo, I would leave it to the dev of the game to port it in the most optimum manner with the most intended purpose.
    To me, seeing as how he has continued expressing his interest in porting it to the platform, the primary likelihood of the port depends on the condition of the agreement between all sides for cross play as he stated.
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  3. #383
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigma-Astra View Post
    I also don't want a random Mario cameo to show up in XIV either and we know that's going to be part of Nintendo's terms probably that Mario gets to show up at least once. I'm sorry Nintendo, you have enough games to flaunt your mascot. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with Mario per say, but you have enough games to show off your flagship, dear god, you have Smash. If XIV suddenly has Mario show up, it really will look like a theme park MMO then. The kind that only stays a float by how many more ridiculous things we can put into XIV to gain new subs whether it makes sense or not and abusing the "they came from another dimension! It's okay!" trope a million times.
    I think you have it backwards. I sincerely doubt Nintendo wants Mario associated with a game that features questionable language, the use of drugs, alcohol (since that keeps getting censored outside of Japan - we all know King Koopa is holding a sake bottle in Mario Kart), prostitution, slavery (Ul'dah's coliseum, if you've forgotten), dismemberment and *gasp* actual death.

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    As for the topic, bringing FFXIV to the Switch, I couldn't say. I don't have enough technological knowledge of Switch/PS4 to compare and what FFXIV actually needs (and will need if they are planning to update the game's graphics as was hinted for the expansion after Shadowbringers). It's not really so much as bringing a Nintendo console up to Sony's level, it's about making sure it'd meet FFXIV's requirements to run smoothly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JunseiKei View Post
    I think you have it backwards. I sincerely doubt Nintendo wants Mario associated with a game that features questionable language, the use of drugs, alcohol (since that keeps getting censored outside of Japan - we all know King Koopa is holding a sake bottle in Mario Kart), prostitution, slavery (Ul'dah's coliseum, if you've forgotten), dismemberment and *gasp* actual death.

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    As for the topic, bringing FFXIV to the Switch, I couldn't say. I don't have enough technological knowledge of Switch/PS4 to compare and what FFXIV actually needs (and will need if they are planning to update the game's graphics as was hinted for the expansion after Shadowbringers). It's not really so much as bringing a Nintendo console up to Sony's level, it's about making sure it'd meet FFXIV's requirements to run smoothly.
    Not necessarily, all they would have to do is ask SE to heavily censor and make a special version for Switch users that's localized and edited enough where all of that is covered with fluffy sprinkles and cotton candy nonsense. And we all know that Nintendo would ask that to be done too. I think you underestimate Nintendo's persistence to have their demands met and SE's love of extra income from other companies as the bait and motivation to allow it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigma-Astra View Post
    Not necessarily, all they would have to do is ask SE to heavily censor and make a special version for Switch users that's localized and edited enough where all of that is covered with fluffy sprinkles and cotton candy nonsense. And we all know that Nintendo would ask that to be done too. I think you underestimate Nintendo's persistence to have their demands met and SE's love of extra income from other companies as the bait and motivation to allow it.
    You speak as if you're our bible, knowing exactly what Nintendo would do in any circumstance. Have you spoken with Nintendo about this matter to derive your conclusions which we have to believe or have you seen it happen and come back to warn us of the great calamity of a Mario hat on a Miqo'te's head or are you just assuming things? And have you a post complaining about how Level-5 infested your game with the Yo-kai Watch disease that it's no longer playable that you might share?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Husain View Post
    You speak as if you're our bible, knowing exactly what Nintendo would do in any circumstance. Have you spoken with Nintendo about this matter to derive your conclusions which we have to believe or have you seen it happen and come back to warn us of the great calamity of a Mario hat on a Miqo'te's head or are you just assuming things? And have you a post complaining about how Level-5 infested our game with the Yo-kai Watch disease that it's no longer playable that you might share?
    ....Do you get upset every time someone has opinions regarding that porting over XIV to the Switch may not be a smart move with possible implications or are you blinded by rose colored glasses simply because of something you want as evident by your signature. I mean, you couldn't make it more obvious even if you tried.

    It's not rocket science to notice the patterns and the marketing trends between certain companies, it just takes general observation skills and common sense. I should know, I do marketing for companies all of the time.

    This is not an echo chamber for your thoughts only and if you can't bring anything else towards the conversation besides snarky, peanut gallery commentary...then maybe the discussion is not for you. Nothing I said was rude, but you sure are being it right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigma-Astra View Post
    ....Do you get upset every time someone has opinions regarding that porting over XIV to the Switch may not be a smart move with possible implications or are you blinded by rose colored glasses simply because of something you want as evident by your signature. I mean, you couldn't make it more obvious even if you tried.

    It's not rocket science to notice the patterns and the marketing trends between certain companies, it's just takes general observation skills and common sense. I should know, I do marketing for companies all of the time.

    This is not an echo chamber for your thoughts only and if you can't bring anything else towards the conversation besides snarky, peanut gallery commentary...then maybe the discussion is not for you. Nothing I said was rude, but you sure are being it right now.
    If it's not rocket science, I'd still leave it to the one more knowledgeable person of the situation, who expressed his interest, to choose the direction, of the game he and his team knows best. The rest of your post is pointless. And yes, I knew you would hate my signature.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Husain View Post
    If it's not rocket science, I'd still leave it to the one more knowledgeable person of the situation, who expressed his interest, to choose the direction, of the game he and his team knows best. The rest of your post is pointless. And yes, I knew you would hate my signature.
    ...So, you have nothing of value to add towards the rest of the discussion but shifting the goal posts and ad hominems when you've been proven to be not only wrong, but rude also.

    Good to know that any further discussion with you is pointless and talking to a brick wall.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigma-Astra View Post
    ...So, you have nothing of value to add towards the rest of the discussion but shifting the goal posts and ad hominems when you've been proven to be not only wrong, but rude also.

    Good to know that any further discussion with you is pointless and talking to a brick wall.
    As much as you see your side as being logical, I see mine as being logical too. Had Yoshi already said, instead of being still in the talks with Nintendo, that the hardware is not what they're looking for, after the 2 years of the Switch's specs being known, I would have left the idea behind, but seeing as he continued to show interest and that he wants it to be on as many platforms as possible, and that he is still interested in the Switch, I'm fine with it.
    And I'm sorry that you don't always have things the way you want them to be in life and that you're not the center of the world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigma-Astra View Post
    Not necessarily, all they would have to do is ask SE to heavily censor and make a special version for Switch users that's localized and edited enough where all of that is covered with fluffy sprinkles and cotton candy nonsense. And we all know that Nintendo would ask that to be done too. I think you underestimate Nintendo's persistence to have their demands met and SE's love of extra income from other companies as the bait and motivation to allow it.
    Well, Nintendo changed a lot in the last few years. We now have brands like bayonetta, and some recent games (arms and even botw) are clearly trying to cater to a more adult and /or "naughty" audience.

    That's not the problem though, since ffxiv has very low chances of being ported to the switch in the first place for obvious technical reasons.

    One thing to consider is that if a switch version is released, it needs to be playable in both docked and portable mode. I don't think that some content in the game (like eureka and 24-man raids) can run on the switch in portable mode, not even if everything is severely downgraded until it looks like a ps1 game. We don't even know if the luminous engine is compatible with the console.

    Another important thing: if ffxiv is released on the switch, it means that future expansions should be developed for the switch too. This means ZERO room for technical improvement for the next 4 years at the very least.

    I feel like people wishing for a switch port don't really care about the game and only care about the console.
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