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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    Befre unsynced content was revealed in Heavensward, people had the exact same fear about lvl50 content, especially for the relic trials and the two 8-man dungeons. The same could be done in Eureka where you remove the lvl/ilvl/elvl restriction, so that, once you're max elvl (not that difficult), you can wreck any monster in the zones. Removing the restriction for NM would basically makes them work like Hunt Marks, allowing an easy low-man kill too (Especially since the "top-NM" item will probably be buyable with crystals).
    Alone it is really difficult, since you barely can solo mob of your level. Most DpS don't have much auto-sustain outside of eureka potion and logos Heal skill, the first won't do much against a High level NM the other require some rabbit farming before even starting to level and yeah chasing a rabbit chest at level 20/35 is as safe as russian roulette with only one slot empty. Sure with the trai nto wreck everything in your path leveling is easy,but it need a cerain amout of people with a quite high level to be efficient and fast.

    And trash mob give trash xp, so engaging to solo I could cry.

    ilv decap won't do much since you can barely dent the life bar of a too high elv monster/fate. 30 kill chain all alone is quite difficult too on max elv monster.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nariel View Post
    Alone it is really difficult, since you barely can solo mob of your level.
    Soloing same level mobs in Anemos is super easy for lots of jobs. For the others, soloing mobs two elvls below is perfectly doable. Basically, any job can solo most of the challenge log each week. And as a duo, it will be a joke. Once one gained some elvl, uncapping them for every zones and when facing NMs will allow one to gather crystals easily (And morer eXp). NMs (In Anemos, at least) are already killable in a party in a near empty instance, and you can't even overelvl them yet.

    Since Eureka also doesn't work like other instances, we might even see the ability of summoning our chocobo in there, providing any backup one could need to solo in any job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
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    Fair point, totaly forget about this weekly log since I didn't complete it more than once.

    But still, many fate won't be soloable at all because of fate level synchro that will probably never disapear, considering how much trahs mob you have to kill for some of them even at faster pace it will take a long time. Especially when it will required max elv +3-5 trash (Skoll, per example require lv 55 wolf who already need a whole team to even kill it and I'm not even talking about killing skoll afterward, even a 8 man team will go trough hell with him).

    Sure those low level fate will be quite killable, great 1 to 5 pyros/pagos/anemos Cristal per fate kill every 20 or maybe 45 min good job, only 850 to go.

    Having to wait for the content to get nerfed the s**t out of it to be doable/enjoyable isn't a great sign of quality anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nariel View Post
    But still, many fate won't be soloable at all because of fate level synchro that will probably never disapear
    That's why I think they need to change NM from FATEs to Hunt Marks. No more sync at all for everything.
    Quote Originally Posted by Nariel View Post
    considering how much trahs mob you have to kill for some of them even at faster pace it will take a long time.
    Once you have a decent overlvl, you will kill them by packs. Even though reducing the number of ennemies required is an easy fix.
    Quote Originally Posted by Nariel View Post
    Especially when it will required max elv +3-5 trash
    For that it will depend on the last Eureka. It should give you a way to overpower even Pyros mobs, once your character level is high enough. They could also use Logos action for that. For example, I've heard that you can easily solo Sprites as long as you can maintain the Logos Reflect up.

    Sure those low level fate will be quite killable, great 1 to 5 pyros/pagos/anemos Cristal per fate kill every 20 or maybe 45 min good job, only 850 to go.

    Having to wait for the content to get nerfed the s**t out of it to be doable/enjoyable isn't a great sign of quality anyway.[/QUOTE]
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
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    So basicaly rework the whole place to be exactly like the open world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nariel View Post
    So basicaly rework the whole place to be like the open world.
    It still can be summed up as "Remove every sync in Eureka".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    It still can be summed up as "Remove every sync in Eureka".
    So why bother create a whole instance consuming s**t-tons of ressources for something that can be done with every map in the open world to begin with by just making trash mob/fate/hunt mark loot those crystal/light/chest/logocrap. The only thing missing is the sens of risk whom make the whole more tedious than it should be for no reward.

    Elemental wheel, logos action are just waste of ressources cause they mean nothing outside of eureka and bring close to nothing in term of gameplay. Didn't bother turning that wheel since anemos, logos action aren't gamebreaking usefull to the point I didn't look further than "Do I have this recipe" and guess what ? I'm doing fine anyway.
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    Last edited by Nariel; 11-17-2018 at 02:45 AM.