Eureka, Square-Enix still don't get i

[Bourne_Endeavor]

The loud minority refers to the small amount of community who visits the forums regularly. The majority refers to the FFXIV players who don't actively participate here. You do know that the majority of players don't visit these forums right?

I've seen a few bash Eureka in shout, and that is usually when it was first released. Other than that it is mostly filled with people chatting or looking for party/raises lol. And every instance I have been in around peak times is nearly full. Overnight hours are still populated when I am able to play. So, I can't really argue with he said she said but, I'm sorry it appears so empty for you :/

In regards to your comment about subs on the decline: I don't have the numbers so I'm trusting that you are correct in that statement, but this is common and expected now that Stormblood is coming to a close, and new video games are being released almost every other week.

I will continue to reiterate this until people stop dismissing the online presence as a small fragment. EA did precisely this; dismissing the enormous backlash Mass Effect 3's ending received. There was a poll on their forums with a 100,000 votes and a 93% disapproval rating. "It's just a vocal, entitled, minority!" Some game's media outlets (Hi, IGN) screamed. Yes, well, Amazon didn't think so when they allowed full refunds on opened copies due to the sheer volume of complaints. And EA didn't think so when they pushed back DLC and remade the ending after the negative attention cost them a significant amount of money. For more recent examples, see Star Wars: Battlefront II and Battlefield V. The "vocal minority" on reddit amassed a dislike ratio of over 600,000 and financial reports were far below the mark—enough Disney threatened to pull the Star Wars license from EA.

Now Eureka is by no means comparable to the aforementioned. I merely wanted to illustrate how much larger an online presence video games have nowadays. With that in mind, if we look to the FFXIV sub reddit, it boasts 195,070 subscribers. Let's be very generous and cut this number in half. That is still roughly 1/5 of the entire FFXIV active playerbase on one English chat site. And the opinions from said chat site are overwhelmingly negative. Granted, Pyros has been much better received. But as a whole, Eureka has not been considered good content. Keep in mind, just because people are in Eureka, doesn't mean they like it.

[Duskane]

That's probably my biggest gripe with Eureka; the blatant dishonesty. Now they're putting hairstyles, and popular furniture and fancier mounts in there too? What's next? Blue Mage weapons in bunny chests that will unlock the job pre expansion? I wouldn't put it past them at this point.

Its dishonest to put Rewards people want in new content? All the stuff can be sold on MB hair,minion barding and the Emotes are cheap now so you dont even have to do eureka ,the new mount is easier to get then night pegasus and Dodo mount and way cheaper and popular furniture? Its just wooden cups and plates which are just in normal lock boxes not all rare, it be "dishonest" (if thats even the righr word) if it was untradable but it aint.

[ShanXiv]

Worst part: there will be a 4th Eureka lol.

So sad, no new Content since release of Alphascape. (i don't count Eureka)
SE didn't learn from Diadem, and this is the result...

Btw: why isn't eureka no on the openworld? Just why SE?

I am doing Eureka level50 quest now.
the quest location is surrounding by Lv52-55 mobs, I died,
no one is there, and I don't want to /sh people to come to help me,the risk is high, I don't want them die.
even if some kind soul come & help me, I know I will not see him again & may not remember his name, because it's cross server.
so my level dropped,

Don't get me wrong, I like danger open world, if the rewards(adventure, friendship, good memories) are worth it,
I got all aetheryte crystals in XIV1.2x ,I had to dodge lv90 mobs, I did it with FC ,some solo, it was fun & memorable.


Now it's just a pure pain, you are in a warzone, but you are helpless, you don't know what you are fighting for (just some glamour stuff)，
it's hard， cold & hopeless...sometimes you think you should just suicide(unsub) for your own sake

[Hyperia]

I found that Anemos was very enjoyable but Pagos was enough to cause me to quit Eureka for a long time. Once they sufficiently nerfed the zone, I returned so I could go into Pyros. Pyros has been very enjoyable for me so far.

[ShanXiv]

I died again , she raised me, thanks, but sorry I won't remember you because I won't see you again,

The zone is nice, but there‘s nothing to do, just some shining quest stars, click it, done, never come back, you call this fun?
So many develop resources were wasted like this, FFXIV 2.0 has a sugar coating, but the core is empty,
it's a "mirage", you think there's something good there, but you finally realize that there's nothing

[Nestama]

You do know you can send Tells in Eureka, right? Make an effort to build a rapport with those you meet and then once you leave, make sure you remember their name so that you can look them up in your Contacts list. From there you can send them a Friend Request and then you can potentially do content together.

The point I'm making is that SE has given you the tools to make friends in and outside Eureka (and everything else). You just have to make use of them.

[Duskane]

I died again , she raised me, thanks, but sorry I won't remember you because I won't see you again,

The zone is nice, but there‘s nothing to do, just some shining quest stars, click it, done, never come back, you call this fun?
So many develop resources were wasted like this, FFXIV 2.0 has a sugar coating, but the core is empty,
it's a "mirage", you think there's something good there, but you finally realize that there's nothing

Actually you do go back if you ever want to spawn skoll

[HyoMinPark]

3000 roulette and still only a level 45 paladin.
your not even complaining about Eureka(it sounds like you haven't even done it) at this point its just the game in general you don't like.

Exactly, I was thinking along the same very lines... +1 to you Duskane.

That number of roulettes and still only at level 45?

You do realize that the OP could have an alt as their forum handle, yes?
Just saying: just because their forum lists this character as a lvl 45 PLD doesn’t mean that they necessarily are. So why don’t we stop with the strawmen and actually address the argument?

For everyone who hates it there is a person that likes it.

I’m going to have to see some statistics and data to back this up, my friend.
Don’t worry: we can wait for you to come back with them.

[Duskane]

You do realize that the OP could have an alt as their forum handle, yes?
Just saying: just because their forum lists this character as a lvl 45 PLD doesn’t mean that they necessarily are. So why don’t we stop with the strawmen and actually address the argument?
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Yes alts but an entire Alt account just seems odd to me troll account for all we know.
And Argument has been addressed by others.

[NocturniaUzuki]

In my opinion, the problem isn't Eureka. It's why people play Eureka. What I gather from my guild members who actually play Eureka (I have never touched it - not even Anemos), is that they feel pressured to play it for the relic.

Why? That has nothing to do with SQEX or whether Eureka is good or bad. It only has to do with one thing. And that is...

Gamers' obession with material reward and progression.

There is almost no reason to grind out top tier gear in this game. You can take on all the content and clear it just fine at MinIL using gear with poor stat balance. If people saw things in terms of fighting for the sake of fighting because it's fun, then there would be no issue. Instead, it's the players themselves and their obsession with grinding out the best gear in the game so they can kill things faster and/or look better that ultimately encourages SQEX to lock relics behind grind. Because it keeps those kind of players playing.

As for me, I don't care. I enjoy the game for it's immaterial value. If I clear a fight, I don't try to go faster for the sake or rewards. All that does is shorten the fun. And why would I shorten it? I'm playing to play. Not to wait around. Instead, I try to make it harder. To challenge myself.

There is SO much content in this game and people are complaining about how boring Eureka is. Well you bring it on yourself. If you're bored with it, go have fun. Because isn't that why you're playing? Or maybe you should reevaluate whether you actually enjoy Eureka or not. Because if you're doing it, there's clearly something about it you enjoy.